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Is this artice extreme or is this the truth?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:47 am
Forecast: The Saints, as we know them, are over
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:52 am to branmand1330
Didn't read the article, but I agree with the forecast. I'm not saying we are the Aints again, but there has been a decline since 2011. Definitely the Super Bowl team's era is over.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:53 am to branmand1330
Unfortunately he is right.
But again, I'm not throwing in the towel until we lose at home.
But again, I'm not throwing in the towel until we lose at home.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 11:55 am to branmand1330
I just read it and think it has some truth, but its also not that bad. It seems like the golden age of Saints football is drawing to an end but it will never be paper bag bad. I have thought about the post superbowl performance before but I don't think this game or even the past few seasons put us in a tail spin we cannot pull up from. Also, it was written by a saints fan in Houston and he admits to starting to write it before the game was even over. Things will get better.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 12:00 pm to branmand1330
I tend to agree with it. I think we are among a few teams close to the rebuilding time. Patriots, Steelers, and us. Proud talented teams in the twilight of what was once greatness.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 12:10 pm to branmand1330
I honestly think that was extreme.
We're all stinging from the loss, and it's easy to overreact.
The guy even admitted he started writing it at halftime.
I don't think we're a playoff team, certainly.
But the future is hardly set in stone.
We're all stinging from the loss, and it's easy to overreact.
The guy even admitted he started writing it at halftime.
I don't think we're a playoff team, certainly.
But the future is hardly set in stone.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 12:30 pm to branmand1330
It's hard to disagree. It's shocking to think that 2014's defense is comprised of many of the same players from 2013. I guess it only took the league one year to figure out Rob Ryan with the Saints.
However, as bad as the defense has been, I might be more surprised with the offense. Last night it seemed like the Cowboys hit wide open guy after wide open guy, while the Saints receivers seem to have 2-3 defenders in the area every time a ball came their way. That never seemed to happen so consistently in years past. And this wasn't Seattle's defense, but an average Cowboys group.
Rarely do I buy into preseason hype, but I genuinely thought this was a real Super Bowl contender before the season started. Now, it's hard to imagine that the Saints will even have a winning record this season.
However, as bad as the defense has been, I might be more surprised with the offense. Last night it seemed like the Cowboys hit wide open guy after wide open guy, while the Saints receivers seem to have 2-3 defenders in the area every time a ball came their way. That never seemed to happen so consistently in years past. And this wasn't Seattle's defense, but an average Cowboys group.
Rarely do I buy into preseason hype, but I genuinely thought this was a real Super Bowl contender before the season started. Now, it's hard to imagine that the Saints will even have a winning record this season.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:14 pm to branmand1330
Right now it feels like Truth.... guess we'll see.
7 rounds of top five draft picks would certainly go a long way towards fixing it though... just sayin'.
7 rounds of top five draft picks would certainly go a long way towards fixing it though... just sayin'.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:30 pm to branmand1330
I said last night to my brother that our days as SB contenders in the Brees era are over unless he essentially becomes a late career Warner type who has some elite weapons to throw quick hitters to and let them male plays. Long gone are the days where we can take a handful of average wrs and OTs and have him transform them into a record setting offense. He needs an much better o line at this point.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:30 pm to branmand1330
Sean Payton hasn't progressed and the league has caught up to him. The plays are all the same. 5 yard pitch backs on a short 3rd down as an example.
Rob Ryan has actually regressed. The D-Line seems to not have any push and our corners are shite (except Lewis).
Drew Brees (and I will forever love that man) isn't throwing it as accurate or with as much zip. And he's making some seriously stupid fricking decisions. And why are we not taking more shots down the field when we have Stills and Cooks? Is it because Brees can't make the throws? I really hope that isn't the case.
But to me, it goes back to Payton. This is on him. The fake punt last night was seriously dumber than anything I have seen even Les Miles do.
Rob Ryan has actually regressed. The D-Line seems to not have any push and our corners are shite (except Lewis).
Drew Brees (and I will forever love that man) isn't throwing it as accurate or with as much zip. And he's making some seriously stupid fricking decisions. And why are we not taking more shots down the field when we have Stills and Cooks? Is it because Brees can't make the throws? I really hope that isn't the case.
But to me, it goes back to Payton. This is on him. The fake punt last night was seriously dumber than anything I have seen even Les Miles do.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:37 pm to branmand1330
Nah sadly its spot on and true. Run is over. Time to rebuild
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:58 pm to branmand1330
Wow this writer is dramatic. This season reminds me A LOT of the 2007 season. High expectations, crappy results.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:10 pm to branmand1330
quote:I don't know about all that...to me the Saints right now feel like a good team that just doesn't feel like it can win. Kind of like a good MLB hitter with a career .290 average that is on a 20-game slump and feels like he can't drive anything. It sucks when you get the yips. I think the Saints have the yips.
Forecast: The Saints, as we know them, are over
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:19 pm to branmand1330
I'm not sure yet....
I don't agree with the writer but the Saints have given me nothing to dispute his claims with.
I don't agree with the writer but the Saints have given me nothing to dispute his claims with.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:25 pm to branmand1330
While the forecast speaks exactly what most of us feel, i don't look at it with the doom and gloom as "The Saints Area Dead". The organization has grown too much in the last ten years under Payton and Loomis to not be able to rebuild it.
Right now there are some talented pieces on defense. Offense you have a top TE, and a solid young RB corps. We need to begin transition from the Brees era effective next season. Time to start looking at young arms, big fast young wrs, and adding lots of OL depth.
Defensively, someone to start at the CB2, and some better LB's. We also need a more consistent defensive scheme.
I feel confident in the Saints front office to do so. I just hope there is money in the coffers to do so given the contracts we have to veteran players.
Part of the issue on offense is that lately our defense gets us down early and makes us become somewhat one dimensional on O. Defenses slide into a cover 2 forcing everything to be short to intermediate routes.
Right now there are some talented pieces on defense. Offense you have a top TE, and a solid young RB corps. We need to begin transition from the Brees era effective next season. Time to start looking at young arms, big fast young wrs, and adding lots of OL depth.
Defensively, someone to start at the CB2, and some better LB's. We also need a more consistent defensive scheme.
I feel confident in the Saints front office to do so. I just hope there is money in the coffers to do so given the contracts we have to veteran players.
Part of the issue on offense is that lately our defense gets us down early and makes us become somewhat one dimensional on O. Defenses slide into a cover 2 forcing everything to be short to intermediate routes.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 4:38 pm to branmand1330
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told America their days as serious contender in the NFL are over.
This is the truth. It's over. The Brees/Payton Era is over.
I don't know when the Saints will win another SB, but, IMHO, Brees will be retired by then.
The Window is closed. This is just my humble opinion.
The dream is over.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:53 pm to branmand1330
Hard to dispute when you let a shitty team, like the Cowboys, with no defense beat you.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:06 am to branmand1330
As long as Brees is here making the money he is for the performance he gives. The Saints are a at best 8-8 team. Bookmark it bash me whatever you gotta do but this is a fact.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:16 pm to branmand1330
A few years of poor drafting and bad free agent signings have doomed us. That, along with the myth that great players will always be great.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:25 pm to branmand1330
I will only say this stat just to brighten everyones day because somehow someway I never ever hear it mentioned by anyone else. When should we be worried we are no longer AT LEAST an above average team? When someone finally is able to end our Dome winning streak under Payton. 17 straight and still counting. That's right, even daunting Seattle is ONLY 16-1 in their last 17 home games! PSHHT... man they don't have anything on the saints at home!
Question:
WHO DAT SAYIN DEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS (at home)
Answer:
Absolutely no one ever as long as Payton is the coach and the Saints have something to play for.
Question:
WHO DAT SAYIN DEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS (at home)
Answer:
Absolutely no one ever as long as Payton is the coach and the Saints have something to play for.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 1:31 pm
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