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re: Walmart Shooting surveillance video finally released. warning graphic violence

Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by Wild Thang
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Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:02 pm to
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So just assume the worst and pull the trigger with total disregard to the situation at hand?


Based on a patrons 911 call? Those cops are walking into a situation they have no control over.

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Man, I don't know you at all, but if you aren't a cop you really do need to step back and take a good look at what's going on. It's not good...at all.


What isn't good at all? The murders everyday blacks commit?

See, are we talking about bias from cops? If so, thats a whole nother thread.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
33831 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:03 pm to
No one should expect a Wal-Mart manager to risk his life confronting a customer with what appears to be a weapon. Police were a good call here.

However, whatever happened to containing the situation? Why not clear the area and call out for the kid to drop the weapon? He didn't even know the cops were there, there were plenty of aisles to provide coverage and could have had more time to determine what exactly was going on. No one was in immediate danger. They should have tried to contain & control the situation instead of rushing in.

The fact that no one expects this any more is so concerning.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30971 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:04 pm to
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The manager at this store could have prevented this too. Ask the guy to leave, guy says it's a BB gun he got off the shelf, manager says he needs to put it in a box or leave it if he didn't want to buy it. No cops. No story.


Come on dude, the manager of Wal-Mart has no need to put himself in a position to confront someone walking around the store with a gun.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:04 pm to
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So just assume the worst and pull the trigger with total disregard to the situation at hand?


Cops now shoot first and ask questions later. They act like they are fighting in Fallujah and they have a license to kill civilians. To them, everyone is a threat. All they have to do is say they feared for their safety.

Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22031 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:04 pm to
What are with some of the comments here? Whether you think the officers were justified in the heat of the moment, a stress I admit I can't understand, some people here are spitting on the kids body for being killed from an innocent (however dumb) mistake. No one won here and no one thinks you're awesome for being so cold applauding the cops.

Everything tells me that they wanted to neutralize a perceived threat without being cautious to ascertain that's what it was. I'm not going to Monday morning quarterback it but you guys acting like this is the way it had to or should have happened are fricked up.

And I'll admit I am typically biased towards defending/believing cops in these stories.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63559 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:05 pm to
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Isn't that what the good ole boys in every branch of government is about? Policy? The process? It's very clear there is no longer a process, and policy is just used as an excuse when it supports them. Now, if it causes an eyebrow to raise, you are done.


I honestly don't know what the frick you are talking about at this point. I simply responded to a post stating that he had a right to carry the "alleged" rifle in the store. My response was a direct quote from Walmart's firearm policy.
Posted by Wild Thang
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Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:06 pm to
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Isn't that what the good ole boys in every branch of government is about?


The president and AG happen to be black.

Get over your reperations phase.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63559 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:09 pm to
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Come on dude, the manager of Wal-Mart has no need to put himself in a position to confront someone walking around the store with a gun.


I wonder what BoogerNuts thinks about your statement.
Posted by BoogerNuts
Lake Charles
Member since Nov 2013
856 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:09 pm to
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What isn't good at all? The murders everyday blacks commit?


I'm white as they come, 31, country as hell, was raised with prejudices. I acknowledge the fact that the violent crime rate heavily favors blacks. But you're a piece of shite for that. No one should die because if the pigment of their skin at birth. Nothing you say holds any substance whatsoever anymore.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34300 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:12 pm to
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there were plenty of aisles to provide coverage and could have had more time to determine what exactly was going on.


I have to disagree with that. The shelving would basically be soft cover in the case of a shooter. Bullets would penetrate and still be deadly.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17277 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:12 pm to
I believe that is what those in the business call a "bad shooting."
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4206 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:13 pm to
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No one should expect a Wal-Mart manager to risk his life confronting a customer with what appears to be a weapon. Police were a good call here.


Manager should know what the FN SCAR replica he carries in his store looks like. And if he doesn't want to have to confront folks carrying one around, they should have them in a locked display.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:14 pm to
Stupid frick got what he deserved.
Posted by BoogerNuts
Lake Charles
Member since Nov 2013
856 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:15 pm to
I would say that according to the policy you posted, the manager should have done his job and asked him to leave. Use the PA system if you have to. The fact he didn't do his job cost a man his life.

That's what BoogerNuts would say.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:15 pm to
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I'm white as they come, 31, country as hell, was raised with prejudices. I acknowledge the fact that the violent crime rate heavily favors blacks. But you're a piece of shite for that. No one should die because if the pigment of their skin at birth. Nothing you say holds any substance whatsoever anymore.


Again, this would be another thread if stats provide bias for cops.

Start the thread, and we could debate it.
Posted by BoogerNuts
Lake Charles
Member since Nov 2013
856 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:17 pm to
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Start the thread, and we could debate it.


I'm having a hard enough time keeping up with this thread on my phone lol. If I were home tho lol....
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:18 pm to
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No one should die because if the pigment of their skin at birth.


frick you dude. I didn't say that at all.

If you want to have a serious debate, don't drop down to the level of the race baiters.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:18 pm to
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I have to disagree with that. The shelving would basically be soft cover in the case of a shooter. Bullets would penetrate and still be deadly.



A BB gun?

The fact that you idiots don't think the government should be SURE about something before executing children is really a sad indicator of how far backwards society is going. Maybe it's a southern thing, I don't know.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:18 pm to
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I'm having a hard enough time keeping up with this thread on my phone lol. If I were home tho lol.


Fine, but don't put words in my mouth.
Posted by inthemorning
Alabama
Member since Sep 2014
395 posts
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:19 pm to
Murder is completely legal as long as you have a badge,
Pay your dues to the big blue union, and only target minorities/easy targets.

I can only hope these cops that murdered that kid have a gun out in public and get the same frantic treatment.
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