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re: Is MLB becoming irrelevant in today's "Media culture"?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:23 pm to motorbreath
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:23 pm to motorbreath
the problem with baseball is that when people are most available to give it there attention and they aren't competing with football and basketball, its the beginning of the season and no one cares about the first 100 games of the season b/c the season is too long.
By the time baseball gets interesting it's football season, and it just can't compete with that.
The only people that care about baseball are the local fans of teams that are doing well, and sometimes they don't even care, Tampa Bay. Ratings prove this point very easily.
I would bet the ratings for a Saints-Packers game at 12 on Sunday draw better ratings than a Yankees Red Sox game on a night without a football game, despite the millions of people difference between the cities.
other reasons i dont' watch it even though i did all the time growing up in the 90's:
1. too many times i see lack of effort. Ortiz makes no attempt to get to first base unless he gets a sure fire base hit or home run.
2. too many non-english speaking players, making no attempts to learn english
3. games are too long
4. season is too long
5. because of 4, when a player farts, it strains their abdomen so they sit out 2 weeks.
6. too many stupid unwritten rules that make players look like douche bags.
7. too many fat asses playing
8. The fact that they treat the two leagues as two separate leagues, the dh.
By the time baseball gets interesting it's football season, and it just can't compete with that.
The only people that care about baseball are the local fans of teams that are doing well, and sometimes they don't even care, Tampa Bay. Ratings prove this point very easily.
I would bet the ratings for a Saints-Packers game at 12 on Sunday draw better ratings than a Yankees Red Sox game on a night without a football game, despite the millions of people difference between the cities.
other reasons i dont' watch it even though i did all the time growing up in the 90's:
1. too many times i see lack of effort. Ortiz makes no attempt to get to first base unless he gets a sure fire base hit or home run.
2. too many non-english speaking players, making no attempts to learn english
3. games are too long
4. season is too long
5. because of 4, when a player farts, it strains their abdomen so they sit out 2 weeks.
6. too many stupid unwritten rules that make players look like douche bags.
7. too many fat asses playing
8. The fact that they treat the two leagues as two separate leagues, the dh.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:32 pm to TeddyPadillac
The distinct lack of effort on behalf of the players is what turns me away along with the occasional 5 hour pitchers dual, it just becomes boring and uninspiring to watch.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 1:36 pm to TeddyPadillac
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1. too many times i see lack of effort. Ortiz makes no attempt to get to first base unless he gets a sure fire base hit or home run.
you sure are watching a lot to not be watching.
Even if ortiz gave it 100% out of the box, he's not beating a throw to first. So it's not that he wouldn't be out, you just want him to be out by less?
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The only people that care about baseball are the local fans of teams that are doing well, and sometimes they don't even care, Tampa Bay. Ratings prove this point very easily.
How, they're not doing well.
Also Fla is full of transplants. Why would they all of a sudden adopt a new team in favor of the team they grew up rooting for?
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I would bet the ratings for a Saints-Packers game at 12 on Sunday draw better ratings than a Yankees Red Sox game on a night without a football game, despite the millions of people difference between the cities.
Is the ratio of occurrence of saints/packers game the same as yankees/redsox?
I don't think anyone would argue that the NFL is the most popular American sport right now, but why does it have to be at the exclusion of MLB being very popular also?
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3. games are too long
nope, they're still 9 innings, just like when you watched in the 90s.
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5. because of 4, when a player farts, it strains their abdomen so they sit out 2 weeks.
of all the injury updates i get for my fantasy team I missed this one. (I get its hyperbole but if you really wanted to make a foolish point for filler you should've gone with sammy's sneeze from years back).
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6. too many stupid unwritten rules that make players look like douche bags.
Is this better or worse than written rules that make players look like douchebags. Because i hate to break it to you, but athletes...they're often douchebags.
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7. too many fat asses playing
So NBA and Soccer are the only ones that should be popular?
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8. The fact that they treat the two leagues as two separate leagues, the dh.
DH is terrible. I agree. But interleague play happens every day so i don't really see the issue anymore. Also it'll likely be in both leagues (sadly) within the next 5 years.
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 9/15/14 at 3:41 pm to TeddyPadillac
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1. too many times i see lack of effort. Ortiz makes no attempt to get to first base unless he gets a sure fire base hit or home run.
How pissed would you be if one of your teams best hitters hurt himself running out a groundball that he had no shot at beating out?
I think it was Adam Eaton, that began this season trying to run out every ground ball with great effort. The veterans on the team sat him down and told him not to. Too many games to waste effort on that when you'll still be out 99% of the time.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 6:43 pm to TeddyPadillac
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1. too many times i see lack of effort. Ortiz makes no attempt to get to first base unless he gets a sure fire base hit or home run.
Your example of lack of hustle is an allegedly 38 year old power hitter, who was never known for speed.
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2. too many non-english speaking players, making no attempts to learn english
I've spent a lot of time around minor league players. The non-English speakers take English lessons almost daily. It's a hard language to learn, and most of them don't speak it publicly because they're self-conscious about it.
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3. games are too long
The average length of a baseball game is shorter than a football game.
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4. season is too long
Again, start to finish, the season is the same length as every other major sport. Shorter than the NBA season actually. And you don't have to watch all 162 games.
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5. because of 4, when a player farts, it strains their abdomen so they sit out 2 weeks.
Eh, it's a long season so there's no rush to come back from a nagging injury. But it's a silly reason to not like watching the game as its not really that prevalent.
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6. too many stupid unwritten rules that make players look like douche bags.
The only reason anyone knows about stuff like that is because the media blows it up every time something happens.
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7. too many fat asses playing
Not really. The NFL has far more 250+lb players than baseball does.
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8. The fact that they treat the two leagues as two separate leagues, the dh.
It's a unique aspect to MLB, but I don't think it gets played up that much.
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