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re: Are Cultural and Ethnic diversity and competency needed for success today?
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:10 pm to LateArrivalforLSU
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:10 pm to LateArrivalforLSU
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On a more serious note and to answer your question....No, I think you hire the best people (regardless of color) for the job, fricking period.
But who is the best person for the job? It's usually someone that looks and thinks like the person doing the hiring and the process is often very subjective. Companies that have a diversity of opinions and experiences probably are better positioned, but I don't think that it should be mandatory.
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:10 pm to ZZTIGERS
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I loathe this line of thinking. Oh, you think that people should work in certain professions to gain experience or insight into how another segment of society lives? That's great, you do it. Leave people alone, and let them choose the path in life they feel is best for them.
Its not like they would make a career out of it. It could simply be volunteering.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:11 pm to LordSaintly
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StrongSafety is black
C'mon bro. Honkey Handbook 101. You have to whisper it when you say it and seem very concerned. "StrongSafety is black" very hush-hush like.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:11 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:16 pm to Easy
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But who is the best person for the job? It's usually someone that looks and thinks like the person doing the hiring and the process is often very subjective. Companies that have a diversity of opinions and experiences probably are better positioned, but I don't think that it should be mandatory.
I don't have serious heartburn with your analysis - unfortunately, all too often people take a failure to get a position as an example of your middle sentence here.
Think about it - 12 people up for an IT position, all male - 6 white, 4 black, 1 latino and 1 asian - they hire one of the white guys - so, now 4 black guys and 1 latino are walking away, shaking their heads thinking, "Racist white people..." ignoring the fact there are 5 white guys who didn't get the job, either.
One of my problems with affirmative action (particularly at this time in history) is that if they happen to hire one of the black guys in the above scenario, now 11 people think he got it because of his race (and perhaps even 12) - and that would piss me off (and I'm whiter than sour cream.)
The analogy I've been using lately is counterfeit. If something is counterfeited heavily (like Confederate sabers from the Civil War) - then it reduces the value of even the genuine article, as everyone is suspicious because of the counterfeits.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:23 pm to StrongSafety
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Its not like they would make a career out of it. It could simply be volunteering.
1. You're still making someone do something they don't want to do.
2. It's not volunteering, if it's mandatory.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:27 pm to notiger1997
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BS. Your company must hire certain races and genders at a certain percentage to be viewed as a good company by the U.S. government.
The company does, yes, but my team is all white dudes
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:28 pm to StrongSafety
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So is this competency only pertinent for minorities, or do you think that it will be must have skill for all people going forward?
it's not a "minority" thing. there are superior and inferior cultures. white/western culture has proven to be the best culture we've found today
so it makes total sense that those of superior culture find success without understanding of other inferior cultures
it just so happens that western culture is "white" culture
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it just so happens that western culture is "white" culture
Today it seems that a good portion of non whites are better at western culture than "white" people.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
At this very moment China is owning your superior western culture all over the world.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:32 pm to BIGDAB
yeah it's typically only seen as "white culture" by people who aren't white who are not in a great economic position
on the flip side, it's similar to how "black culture" is really urban-black culture
on the flip side, it's similar to how "black culture" is really urban-black culture
This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:34 pm to Easy
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China is owning your superior western culture all over the world.
china isn't owning shite
china still makes a ton of our shite that poor Americans buy at wal mart
china is sitting on a huge bubble of state-backed modernization that will pop shortly
*ETA: that modernization is adopting western values, just so you know
we are the world's hegemon while china can't even control north korea or russia regionally
This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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on the flip side, it's similar to how "black culture" is really urban-black culture
What do you see as black culture?
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:41 pm to Easy
i don't know that there is a black culture, and going to the black rodeo tonight will show me that further
that "blackness" would blow the minds of some ratchet kids from detroit
that "blackness" would blow the minds of some ratchet kids from detroit
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:42 pm to Easy
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What do you see as black culture?
I don't think black people in america really have a culture.
We have adapted the ways of the dominant culture, but we have very few things we can call our own.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree that China's bubble will burst, but it's not just Americans buying their products. And by "Russia...regionally" do you mean Ukraine? Because that's the European part of Russia. Besides, them not being the world's police has definitely worked to their advantage.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:45 pm to Easy
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Besides, them not being the world's police has definitely worked to their advantage.
who? china?
they desperately want to be a hegemon, and have spent trillions to get to that point, so i don't know what you're talking about
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And by "Russia...regionally" do you mean Ukraine? Because that's the European part of Russia.
russia as in russia in its totality. if china isn't hegemon of that area, russia will be (if the US isn't, obviously)
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but it's not just Americans buying their products.
it was a comparison of living standards
our poor people are fat and buy shite at wal-mart that starving poor people in china make for almost no money
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think the whole "China owns the USA", started as a joke, that people took as the truth. For example, it's often said that China owns the US, because of the amount of our debt they own. In reality, they only own about 8% of it. While still a good bit, it's hardly the amount you'd expect from someone who owns you.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:47 pm to Easy
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What do you see as black culture?
I'm glad nobody here is fishing for some kind of egregious misstep in an attempt to gin up some RACE GRIEVANCE. You know in some places, people even throw things out hoping for dishonest argument in a cynical attempt to validate their insecurities and sense of victimhood. Thankfully that's not happening here. Whew.
Go Tigers ! Headed to the stadium!
Posted on 9/13/14 at 2:47 pm to ZZTIGERS
yeah various US government agencies own the majority, iirc
and if china "sinks" the US, china sinks. they will lose the biggest market for much of their economy
and if china "sinks" the US, china sinks. they will lose the biggest market for much of their economy
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