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New Michael Brown shooting witnesses describe scene

Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:52 am
Posted by a want
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:52 am
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Two men, shocked at what they saw, describe an unarmed teenager with his hands up in the air as he's gunned down by a police officer.

They were contractors doing construction work in Ferguson, Missouri, on the day Michael Brown was killed.

And the men, who asked not to be identified after CNN contacted them, said they were about 50 feet away from Officer Darren Wilson when he opened fire.


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"He had his f**n hands up," one of the men says in the video.

The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later. "The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.

That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up."

The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot.

The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.

Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him."

The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.

The men said they didn't seen how the confrontation started.



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The construction workers said they don't live in Ferguson and don't know the Brown family, but their account squares with accounts from several other witnesses of the unarmed African-American teen's shooting death on August 9.


Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:54 am to
why wait til now?
Posted by Wtodd
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:54 am to
quote:

The construction workers said they don't live in Ferguson and don't know the Brown family, but their account squares with accounts from several other witnesses of the unarmed African-American teen's shooting death on August 9.

But doesn't square with the facts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 7:57 am to
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"brains come out of his head,"

this is the one i'm curious about more than anything. the rest is easily true within the facts of what we know, but this one is a head scratcher
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:00 am to
This is one of those situations where a common sense bystander like this contractor or me would say "why didn't the officer stop shooting? he had clearly gotten control of the situation!"

But then you'll have some know it all cop come in here and say something like "LOL - it doesn't work that way... once you start firing you don't stop".

Then most of the Republicans will side with the cop and most of the liberals or police haters will side against the cop. and that's it.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:01 am
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:01 am to
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then another shot about 30 seconds later


Hmmm sounds like they are describing a execution. I have my doubts about this one.
30 sec is a long damn time.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:02 am to
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their account squares with accounts from several other witnesses of the unarmed African-American teen's shooting death on August 9.
Where is the corroborating testimony? The "witnesses" that started this whole thing said he was shot in the back, which we know was a lie.
This post was edited on 9/11/14 at 8:03 am
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:02 am to
There's a certain amount of chaos that comes from having multiple witnesses. I suspect there's at least a grain of truth in their perspective. But it's tough to piece together where this all goes. I'd say their testimony makes it likely the officer sees a trial.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:05 am to
It doesn't fit with the released evidence, but then again I haven't keep up with it since the nightly in game threads on the riots.

Also eye witnesses are usually the most inaccurate evidence there is. 12 ppl can see the same thing and you will get 12 different stories about what happened.

All cops should be required to wear body cams and you wouldn't have these problems.








frick the race baiters and frick the police
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:06 am to
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The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.



ahhh... boomerang bullets... sneaky cop!
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:09 am to
Sounds like the DOJ is in Ferguson coaching "witnesses."
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:11 am to
quote:

The construction workers said they don't live in Ferguson and don't know the Brown family, but their account squares with accounts from several other witnesses of the unarmed African-American teen's shooting death on August 9.


...which doesn't square with forensic evidence.
Posted by PJinAtl
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:18 am to
This was almost as bad as CNN trotting out the audio recorded by the gamer who was talking to an online cam-girl and recorded the gunshots.

We actually had CNN on last night when this was "breaking news". The St. Louis police association lawyer was making the point that these contractors could not have seen the initial part of the confrontation because they would have been shielded by the building, and that this could not be immediately after (several minutes at least had to have elapsed) due to the fact that on the video you could see the crime scene tape going up.

The whole time, Sunny Hostin was declaring the cop guilty of cold blooded murder, saying that the lawyer had to admit that this was all evidence of a crime, etc. I seem to remember her being all in on the side of Trayvon Martin during that trial as well, basically ignoring anything positive for the defense and continually championing the prosecution's case.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:19 am to
Those guys are lying.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:26 am to
Interesting, I'm interested in if the leak about "12 witnesses back the officers story" info is true.

Unfortunately, we will never know the truth.

However, I'd like clarification on this

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The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later. "The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.


Are they talking about the initial gunshot that started the whole thing and then 30 seconds later the deadly shots taking place? Or is he saying that the cop fired one while he was running away and there was a standoff for 30 seconds before the fatal shots
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:33 am to
Does anyone know how this eye-witness account squares with KNOWN facts such as the nature of the injuries? Eye witness accounts can be great but they can also be shockingly unreliable. For example, are Brown's wounds consistent with these accounts?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:43 am to
Ok, went back and watched the entire thing... The "Witnesses" claim that brown staggered 20-25ft and then fell dead.

There is NOTHING, even other witness statements, that corroborates this. All other accounts we have heard state that the officer fired until he fell. Plus, the bullet to the top of the head indicates that Brown had to be leaning forward, so either charging or falling dead.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:51 am to
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said they were about 50 feet away


Look at the video, that is a lot more than 50ft away

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"We could see his brain coming out"


From "50ft" away? GTFO He has capped in the head, what did they expect to see?

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who asked not to be identified


If you're so confident in your story, why in the hell would you impede an investigation?



Posted by danjones
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 8:58 am to
Good find
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 9:08 am to
This could be very interdasting if true.
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