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re: ESPN - Les Miles proves again not to doubt him
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:26 am to LeonPhelps
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:26 am to LeonPhelps
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You have no idea how miserable it is for me to follow sports. I love football, college and professional. But I can't enjoy it without my team winning it all. I can't stand a single loss. I can't even stand to see my QB throw a pick.
You sound like you wear that as a badge of honor, but in my opinion, you are the worst kind of fan. It reminds me of what I see in a lot of Alabama fans, Notre Dame fans, and USC fans, although Alabama fans (yes you know what's coming) are the worst. The arrogance and the gall, to expect to win the NC every year. I have to be honest, I hope we're never so successful that we develop that mindset. It's miserable and embarrassing.
I once had an Alabama fan dress me down, saying essentially, that as an LSU fan, I should be ecstatic with the two NC's that Saban and Miles gave us for the rest of my life, that we should understand that we were very lucky to have those experiences, because Alabama is team who SHOULD be winning it every year. I just remember thinking to myself what a sad pathetic person she was.
I'm not saying that winning championships shouldn't be the goal, but if you can't enjoy the competition, the ups and downs, the drama, then you've lost site of the whole point of sports. It's in the playing. Do we remember the games where we blew people out as much as the bluegrass miracle? Why follow college sports, if not for the fact that it's much more of an emotional roller coaster than professional teams.
I'm not saying that constructive criticism isn't fair game, but let's not become a victim of our success. And I hope we never have to hear our coach and his wife tell our fans that our expectations have become so high that we're impossible to please, like we saw at another team last year.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:16 am to RedTigerRulz
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I think he's a good coach who's done a good job during his tenure.
Anyone looking at the Les Miles time at LSU and describing it simply as a good job is as clueless as they come.
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I won't use the word great because he hasn't won multiple titles
So, you are saying in the last 80 years of college football there has only been 18 great coaches?
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 5:04 am to TheDeathValley
Id much rather a coach that starts of slow and come from behind than one who takes the lead early and gets outcoached and loses! As anyone would! But lets keep this in mind.... Good coaching is making the adjustments at half to come out victorious!
Posted on 9/4/14 at 6:56 am to LeonPhelps
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You have no idea how miserable it is for me to follow sports. I love football, college and professional. But I can't enjoy it without my team winning it all. I can't stand a single loss. I can't even stand to see my QB throw a pick. I usually end up turning off the game and periodically checking the score. I try to just enjoy the game but winning it all matters too much to me.
I'm not sure if this is a masterful troll, or just a pathetic fan.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 7:29 am to LeonPhelps
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Saban joined Alabama in 2007 and since then has won more games than Miles.
Miles: 73 wins
Saban: 74 wins
Literally won game difference and the mulligan game is it.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 7:57 am to monsterballads
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Miles: 73 wins Saban: 74 wins Literally won game difference and the mulligan game is it.
Bama's on the down slide this year, poor little Nick is going to lose some ground to Les, he doesn't know how to win close games.
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 8:57 am to TheDeathValley
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Love it.
Its nice but play the whole game! Yea, yea I'll be called negative but how many times are you watching the game and thinking we look like shite for 3 quarters and then all of a sudden a couple of big plays and we pull it out and everybody is high fiving about how awesome Les is.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:03 am to Navytiger74
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Things just randomly start shifting at some point nearer the end of the 3rd quarter.
The thing I love the most about Les. We don't just beat teams we break them.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:07 am to Navytiger74
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Haha, Choc. You're old as frick.
39 is the new 25
Posted on 9/4/14 at 9:56 am to Bloodworth
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we pull it out and everybody is high fiving about how awesome Les is.
Sports is all bout winning. I could give a flying flip how we win football games as long as we win football games and LSU is winning more BCS/SEC football games more than ANY BCS/SEC program since 05. This BS bout LSU not winning big enough when we play in the SECW and almost yearly have a top 10 SOS is a laughable criticism.
As is the thought process which says a HC must have at less 2 NCs to be seen as a great college coach.
Like Miles or not, but his results for the last 9+ yrs place him in the great level for his period at LSU. For a decade the LSU overall results place us in a Top 3-5 program level. Anyone claiming that not great when we play in the SECW is just silly and suffering from college football mental retardation.
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:33 am to Navytiger74
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Things just randomly start shifting at some point nearer the end of the 3rd quarter.
Yes, random. Its all random
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:39 am to CAD703X
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September 3 #3 Oregon W 40–27
September 10 Northwestern State W 49–3
September 15 #25 Mississippi State W 19–6
September 24 #16 West Virginia W 47–21
October 1 Kentucky W 35–7
October 8 #17 Florida W 41–11
October 15 Tennessee W 38–7
October 22 #19 Auburn W 45–10
November 5 #2 Alabama W 9–6 OT
November 12 Western Kentucky W 42–9
November 19 Ole Miss W 52–3
November 25 #3 Arkansas W 41–17
December 3 #12 Georgia W 42–10
:'(
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:47 am to Lonnie4LSU
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As is the thought process which says a HC must have at less 2 NCs to be seen as a great college coach.
So by your logic then Chizik at Auburn or say Carr at Michigan would be great coaches since they each won a NC. I realize Miles has put together a string of winning seasons but some would argue that to rise to the elite/great status, you need to win a second title to dispel the thought that it was a fluke the first time. Chizik sure as hell wouldn't have won it without Cam the year Auburn made their run.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 10:58 am to RedTigerRulz
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think he's a good coach who's done a good job during his tenure. I won't use the word great because he hasn't won multiple titles like paterno/Bryant/saban/Switzer/Meyer/Bowden/Osborne/etc. When he does, no one should have a single solitary complaint about his status in Tiger lore.
Winning a NC is much harder now than when Bryant, Paterno, Switzer, Bowden and Osborne won multiple titles. College football is more competitive than ever and the quality of coaching in the major conferences, especially the SEC is higher than in the prior eras. Saban benefited in his years at LSU in not having to play Spurrier in his prime, and he never had to play Meyer in his prime either at Florida. When Saban was at LSU he only had one really strong coach to compete against regularly, Tuberville. He still only managed one NC title and two SEC championships, all with a little help.
On the other hand, Miles has been coaching in the most competitive era in college football, and especially in the SEC, and has had to coach regularly against (and mostly held his own against) some the of top coaches in college football history who are coaching teams on a par with the talent that LSU has. Hard to really argue with his success and his place at the top of LSU's coaching history and among the best in the SEC's history.
He isn't perfect, and I have nearly pulled my hair out on multiple occasions, but the bottom line is he has had more success than any coach in LSU history. And I really can't complain very much about that.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:02 am to Choupique19
Dang I don't think I ever looked at the whole schedule and scores like this? Looks like my Play Station schedule at the end
2011 was badass!! Not complaining at all but a bunch of those games didn't start well and to the point of the thread all ended in a butt kicking.
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Posted on 9/4/14 at 11:11 am to Navytiger74
Wear down is a game thing not play to play and once our backs start breaking the the line of scrimmage in loaded boxes there is no help for the defenses !
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:21 pm to Choupique19
But we lost the championship because Miles wouldn't let his nuts hang
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:42 pm to winston318
Les Miles has lost control of this thread. Glad i left at halftime.
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