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re: So Asians make more money on average than whites in the US

Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:16 am to
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:16 am to
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and for the record, asians weren't exactly treated well. hell "yellow face" was still accepted decades after black face

Do you really compare what Asians, Irish and Italians experienced to the systematic state-sanctioned discrimination and oppression that Blacks experienced for centuries? If you want to compare apples to apples, instead of apples to oranges, compare Asians, most of whom have only been here for a generation or two, to African and South American immigrants.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:25 am to
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Do you really compare what Asians, Irish and Italians experienced to the systematic state-sanctioned discrimination and oppression that Blacks experienced for centuries?

slavery was different (although asians were often conscripted into de facto slavery)

but that was 150 years ago. it's no excuse today

and if we're talking about state-sanctioned discrimination like Jim Crow: yes. they all experienced that

go look up the history of californian jim crow laws. typically based in asian distinctions and not black/white

California Alien Land Law

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The Alien Land Laws were invalidated in 1952 by the Supreme Court of California as a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution in Sei Fujii v. California.


19 fricking 52
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:23 am to
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Do you really compare what Asians, Irish and Italians experienced to the systematic state-sanctioned discrimination and oppression that Blacks experienced for centuries?
Under no circumstances is there an equivalence.
None!

But tf, there must be a way out for multigenerational impoverished Americans. There must be a solution better than more of the same, because "more of the same" is not working. Blaming others and seeking deeper dependency is not a solution. Fatherless households is not a solution. Homicide rates at 400% of the national average (suffered in the vast majority at the hands of other Blacks) is not the solution. Locking impoverished communities into terrible schools is not the solution. Northerners' urban habits of gentrification are not the solution.

Claiming there will never be a post-racial mindset in this country (when in fact that is the current mindset of a vast number of Americans) is not the solution. It is not now, nor will it ever be. Though some may think it advantageous somehow, it's a loser's gambit.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 11:33 am to
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Do you really compare what Asians, Irish and Italians experienced to the systematic state-sanctioned discrimination and oppression that Blacks experienced for centuries?

Dude this is the poliboard. Many people on here truly believe Asians, Irish, etc had it just as bad (maybe even worse) than blacks throughout the history of America.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 9:34 am to
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Do you really compare what Asians, Irish and Italians experienced to the systematic state-sanctioned discrimination and oppression that Blacks experienced for centuries? If you want to compare apples to apples, instead of apples to oranges, compare Asians, most of whom have only been here for a generation or two, to African and South American immigrants.


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