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re: Tony Barnhart: "LSU with lots of losses on the defensive side."

Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:56 am to
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:56 am to
Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
22806 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:00 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.



No it isn't, Whether LSU fans want to admit or not, Ego and Anthony Johnson didn't do anything great last year.....The had moments but neither was consistent........As for Loston, he was a leader but he was never gonna blow you away with his coverage skills, he was a "big hitter" who didn't really make the conservative tackle when we needed him too.

So with that said, I'm pretty confident we have gotten more athletic at safety and we have fresh bodies in the trenches that nobody knows anything about.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:00 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.



Meh. Craig Loston was addition by subtraction if you ask me.

I'll agree with the other stuff though.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:01 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles

flawed logic here. AJ was a selfish player who refused to play within the system constantly striving for sportscenter type plays. This team will not miss that. Some of you forget this is a team sport

Same theory is that aTm has one of the best secondaries in the SEC (Cant remember who sad it) because their entire back end is returning from last year.........well.....they were all shite performers last year but hey, they are all back. wouldnt that confirm aTm will have a crappy secondary again? I think so

Returning player =/= production
player leaving =/= loss of production
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:07 am
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21131 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:02 am to
Every team loses players. Every year. LSU returns 13 starters overall. He did not mention the losses of the other teams.

Look, Tony Barnhart NEVER gives LSU credit. Never has. He focuses on the East and Alabama and Auburn. My point is simply that LSU has a lot of positives and the media only notices the negatives.

LSU surprises people starting this week.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29272 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:07 am to
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two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal


johnson didn't live up to his hype/potential/didn't play well and loston was a liability in pass coverage. both are being replaced by more talented players that should be hungry to prove themselves.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17716 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:33 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.



Meh - Loston was great against the run, but decent in pass coverage.

The two DTs didn't do much at all last year and they won't be big losses.

Barrow was ok, he didn't do that much either.

The defense lacked leadership last year. The best players on the defense from a year ago are returning. White, Robinson, and Alexander.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:34 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81952 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:33 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.


Can't agree. If things go as projected with recruiting, a teams stands a good chance of losing way more than that every year.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10184 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:36 am to
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osing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.


These are the type statements that are spewed by ignorant fans or those who want LSU to fail. Of coarse losing any starter is a big deal. It just seems like it's a bigger deal to LSU than to other teams like Wisconsin, who lost 7 from their starting defense,or Alabama that lost damn near the whole O-Line and 2 time national championship winning QB.

We may lose this game and go on to lose 3 or 4 games but I would take LSU's whole team over any Wisconsin or Big 10 team that takes the field this year. You don't win on returning starters you win with coaching and talent!
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:30 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.


Of course it matters. I think the point that's baffling to most is that Wisconsin lost more key players from last years team and have just as many, if not more, question marks. Yet the "gurus" predict a dark cloud of inexperience and ineptitude will somehow engulf LSU and spare Wisconsin. Somehow I doubt that. Tigers win.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10506 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:35 am to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.


Following 2010, LSU lost:

Both starting interior lineman (Nevis and Levingston) that were combined more dominant than Freak and Ego.

Lost our starting stud MLB in Sheppard (bigger loss than Barrow)

Lost our best DB/CB in Peterson who I'd say was more important to LSU than Loston.

How'd that 2011 defense turn out?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56940 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Losing your two starting interior defensive tackles and a safety with four years of extensive experience is a big deal - whether LSU fans want to admit it or not.



Everything is relative.

Relative to Wisconsin, it really shouldn't be viewed as a cause for a disadvantage.
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