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re: One officer says, shut up and take it.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:22 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:22 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Some people grew up differently, and think since they disrespected their teachers and parents and others regularly without punishment, that they can disrespect police officers. They are a drain on society.
While I'd like to agree with you, the situation changes when the officers are power hungry morons not fit for most other professions. That isn't most cops, FWIW, but it does fairly describe some.
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:24 pm to asurob1
TBH, the county sheriff where I live is fine. They actually give a damn about professionalism. Some of the city cops are just terrible
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:25 pm to asurob1
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One officer says, shut up and take it.
Is this the beginning of a porn movie?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:25 pm to tigeraddict
quote:That's the problem. We are all treated like "perps" rather than citizens.
well, the " i will be nice to you until you pull a gun on me attitude" will leave the officer dead if he waits for the perp to pull a gun....
When and how did this happen?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:25 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Absolutely not true at all.
Thing is, i grew up learning how to respect my elders, and teachers, and parents and others that warranted respect.
when i didn't i was punished in some way.
Some people grew up differently, and think since they disrespected their teachers and parents and others regularly without punishment, that they can disrespect police officers.
You always respect people. But we are all adults. Cops are peers. They aren't mommy and daddy.
They should be respected as a means of being polite just like you'd show respect to any stranger you meet.
A lot of people grew up respectful but disrespect police officers because they over-step their authority.
Plus, a lot of them are stupid. For example, in many areas, all you need is a high school degree to be a cop. I absolutely understand people being frustrated with a loud moron with a gun bossing people around.
Having said that, there are a lot of good cops out there. But as for the disrespect... I get it. A lot of them treat good citizens like common criminals.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:27 pm to Erin Go Bragh
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If you believe an officer is violating your rights or bullying you, Dutta says, don't challenge him then -- save that for lodging a complaint later.
Sound advice
Yep. As I said on another thread, the best way for a community to hurt a bad cop is to start flooding the police department with complaints against him.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:27 pm to Vegas Bengal
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep, when they came in my cabin under false pretense (illegally) I didn't push back. Did get my dog out of the cabin though.
I probably shouldn't be so harsh towards cops...
After I got in shape and cut my hair, I did get out of two tickets a few years down the road by simply being polite. LOL
One time I was speeding (20MPH over) on a two-lane highway in the middle of nowhere. I passed a cop coming the other direction. Didn't see him till it was too late as he was coming over a hill towards me.
He hit the lights immediately, but being that we were in the middle of nowhere, he was going to have to go a ways before he could turn and pursue me.
I thought to myself "hmmm there are a few roads I could turn down before he is able to turn around and he may never find me, but if he does, I'll be in bigger trouble".
What did I do? I found a wide shoulder a mile up the road, pulled over, and waited for him.
About three minutes later I can see him coming over the hill in my rearview.
He got out of the car laughing. He couldn't believe I pulled over like that.
"All my years of being on the force, I've never seen this. Hell, I thought I was going to lose you. I didn't get to turn around for almost two miles. You could have gotten away. I just want to know your name so I can tell you thank you for being accountable, then go home. I'm not even going to run your license. If you have any warrants, today is your lucky day".
So, not all of them are frickers.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:28 pm to tigeraddict
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well, the " i will be nice to you until you pull a gun on me attitude" will leave the officer dead if he waits for the perp to pull a gun....
So we should all be treated as gun toting thugs?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:29 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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I hate police with a passion...
This sounds like sound advice to me.
In fact, the times I was pulled over and harassed endlessly by those frickers, I did not once bait them. I knew better.
Once I was illegally searched while he called me a drughead (nothing was found) and sexually harassed my hot girlfriend on the side of the road for almost 20 minutes.
I didn't retaliate.
Humiliated? Yes
Still in one piece? Yes
I hope you filed a complaint. That's what I've done in the past.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:30 pm to Choupique19
"don't try to take my gun or I'll shoot you"
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:32 pm to TX Tiger
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hat's the problem. We are all treated like "perps" rather than citizens.
When and how did this happen?
thats the problem. because things can turn on the cop quickly, he has to enter the encounter defensive, or at least overly cautious. I'm sure they have seen countless training films where a seemingly innocuous situation turned quickly on the officer
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:34 pm to PrimeTime Money
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You always respect people. But we are all adults. Cops are peers. They aren't mommy and daddy. They should be respected as a means of being polite just like you'd show respect to any stranger you meet.
Yep. If you aren't breaking the law, a cop has no reason to boss you around and treat you like scum.
Most cops I know love knowing that people are intimidated by them. And that's a big reason why many of them become cops. It's all a power trip.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:35 pm to asurob1
When thugs are in the process of kicking your door in, and you call 911...who do you want showing up with a gun.....Barack Obama...or some badass with an attitude!
Police are there to do what our sorry-assed Free Press is supposed to do...CRITIQUE/be critical of those we charge them to. For the Press...it's politicians with power; for the Police...it's potential lawless individuals and groups.
Anybody with power is problematic...but it's either take care of business ourselves - and that with an increasing incivility/ruthlessness in large segments of the populous - or hire professional hardasses to do it for us. I'll take the latter. If they get too far out of line...the weak links will go rogue, follow them home, and put the fear of God in the whole bunch.
I love the Law. At least or until it is corrupted to serve anti-Constitutional ends. Hell...our Tigers couldn't play a game without the whole place coming unglued, without em'.
Police are there to do what our sorry-assed Free Press is supposed to do...CRITIQUE/be critical of those we charge them to. For the Press...it's politicians with power; for the Police...it's potential lawless individuals and groups.
Anybody with power is problematic...but it's either take care of business ourselves - and that with an increasing incivility/ruthlessness in large segments of the populous - or hire professional hardasses to do it for us. I'll take the latter. If they get too far out of line...the weak links will go rogue, follow them home, and put the fear of God in the whole bunch.
I love the Law. At least or until it is corrupted to serve anti-Constitutional ends. Hell...our Tigers couldn't play a game without the whole place coming unglued, without em'.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:39 pm to BayouBlitz
quote:And then add in those cops that hide behind bushes in hopes of "catching" you going over the speed limit so they can treat you like a hardened criminal. It's a problem.
Most cops I know love knowing that people are intimidated by them. And that's a big reason why many of them become cops. It's all a power trip.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:43 pm to tigeraddict
quote:What "encounter?"
hat's the problem. We are all treated like "perps" rather than citizens. When and how did this happen?
thats the problem. because things can turn on the cop quickly, he has to enter the encounter defensive
Stop hiding in the bushes. Stop pushing your weight around like an overlord and there won't be any "encounter."
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:44 pm to asurob1
Is he wrong? 10/10 times if you fight back, you'll end up
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shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:45 pm to asurob1
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Community members deserve courtesy, respect and professionalism from their officers. Every person stopped by a cop should feel safe instead of feeling that their wellbeing is in jeopardy. Shouldn’t the community members extend the same courtesy to their officers and project that the officer’s safety is not threatened by their actions?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:49 pm to trackfan
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I hope you filed a complaint. That's what I've done in the past.
Nope.
I didn't want to see that idiot again. It was a local force in the town I lived in. I knew someone who knew of the cop. The cop was a known insufferable douchebag. The fact that I was a long-haired-hippy-looking kid in his late teens with a hot girlfriend pissed him off.
You can't deal logically with people that arrogant and ignorant. I was wise in my young age not to file a complaint.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:52 pm to asurob1
quote:Chris Rock was right.....
"Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don't want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you," he wrote.
"I'm a cop. If you don't want to get hurt, don't challenge me,"
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