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Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:34 am to jbgleason
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Fact. The first versions of this airframe had a crosshairs PAINTED on the pilots window. He just put the plane in a circular bank until the crosshairs was on the target and they went to pound town.
Now there are a handful of computer operators in the back and a gazillion computers running things.
The ones they used in Vietnam were called "spooky" or "puff the magic dragon". They were old WWII era Douglas C-47's (the same planes that dropped the paratroopers in Normandy during D-Day) that had been modified as gunships.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:37 am to Darth_Vader
just about to come post ole Puff.
Beat me to it.
Beat me to it.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:38 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:That doesn't sound right...
I think they fly at 10K to 15K
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:41 am to LSURussian
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GT, I've always wondered if the bad guys can't hear the C-130 flying overhead
probably not. They have a bunch of C-130s at Maxwell AFB near my house and they are flying all the time. You dont ever really hear them much at all; nothing like a jet.
you can usually see the C-130 lights in the night sky though. not sure if they use those during real sorties.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:43 am to tigerpawl
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That doesn't sound right...
Service ceiling is 30k ft and guns effective around 15k, so maybe more like 15-20k
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:57 am to GrammarKnotsi
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Service ceiling is 30k ft and guns effective around 15k, so maybe more like 15-20k
And you see them fly much lower than that
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:58 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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The new AC-130W which was in use in RC(E) when I was there doesn't even have a 105 anymore. That's all cool stuff but pointless in reality. In fact unless the 130 is already on target 9 times out of 10 the JTAC is calling in the AWT for CAS in a JAAT with A-10s. That was my experience in Mountain warfare in RC(E).
Excuse me, sir. Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, shouldn't we keep the PC on the QT? 'Cause if it leaks to the VC he could end up MIA, and then we'd all be put on KP.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:59 am to tigerpawl
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That doesn't sound right...
Well I don't know exactly. I'm just a dumb grunt. That's why I said "I think"
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:04 am to GeauxxxTigers23
who is the terrorist downvoting all the comments? And how the hell are you on TD from your cave in Afghanistan?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:05 am to Da Sheik
They probably just killed a bunch of innocent people nothing new there
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:07 am to Darth_Vader
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The ones they used in Vietnam were called "spooky" or "puff the magic dragon". They were old WWII era Douglas C-47's (the same planes that dropped the paratroopers in Normandy during D-Day) that had been modified as gunships.
130's were also used in Vietnam...
Caption: 16th SOS
AC-130 56-0014
RTAFB Ubon, Thailand
ca.1971
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:08 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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who is the terrorist downvoting all the comments?
That would be Darth's little friend...
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:31 am to jbgleason
My Dad flew Forward Air Control in Vietnam. He was in a single-engine Cessna flying at tree top level with smoke bombs to mark the targets. Of course, he was an easy target for Charlie as well. He got several medals, made it home alive and is still with us. 
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:36 am to LSUBFA83
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My Dad flew Forward Air Control in Vietnam. He was in a single-engine Cessna flying at tree top level with smoke bombs to mark the targets. Of course, he was an easy target for Charlie as well. He got several medals, made it home alive and is still with us.
Tell him thank you!
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:51 am to GrammarKnotsi
quote:Can't see them doing successful strafing at 20k... way too high...
Service ceiling is 30k ft and guns effective around 15k, so maybe more like 15-20k
I estimate from videos they're about 1,500 feet.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 10:58 am to tigerpawl
Yeah, but you'd be able to hear the plane's engines at 1500 feet. I never heard or saw the thing.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:16 am to tigerpawl
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I estimate from videos they're about 1,500 feet.
That far within small arms range? No way in hell. Even at the range, they train at operational altitude.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:16 am to GrammarKnotsi
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Service ceiling is 30k ft and guns effective around 15k, so maybe more like 15-20k
You will never, ever get a gunship (AC H, AC U or AC W) to 30k ft.
Also, they fight unpressurized, so they have to suck the hose if they're over 12.5k.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 11:20 am to slacker130
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slacker130
I assume you know what you're talking about. Drop some knowledge on us.
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