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re: Motiejunas: Dwight and Harden were separate from team, Lin was best teammate

Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:42 am to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
35048 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:42 am to
quote:

So you're hypothesis is you're just an a-hole until you win a ring. At which point you become an inspirational a-hole to your teammates. Sounds legit.



Nah, it's more like if you're gonna be an a-hole, then you better be an a-hole leader.

Just a personal theory.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36518 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:45 am to
jeremy lin is the fricking man. the LINSANITY documentary shows that he is cool as shite, he dunks on his mom in the offseason, and everyone loves him. frick yeah.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5877 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:47 am to
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Leadership can come from other sources on a team, but do the rockets have leadership? All these reports seem like its leaning towards no. You're basing that off a foreign radio interview with a benchwarmer? C'mon brah. DM is looking for playing time and he's not getting those minutes in HOU.


Then who on the Rockets tema do you think is a leader. Throwing out D-Mo's comments doesn't change the fact that the Rockets don't have any leadership from it's players.
Posted by Big Moe
Chicago
Member since Feb 2013
3989 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Lin really seems like a down to earth dude, tbh. Not full of himself in the least. I appreciate and respect that about him.


Although I wanted him gone at the end of the season, I always respected him for this. If not for having Caanan behind him, I would have enjoyed having him back this year
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8633 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:02 pm to
Look man, Howard was never the leader on the Magic... Ever.

You want Howard to be something he is not. This is par for the course behavior from Howard.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17126 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Sorry, just an a-hole. There were other sources of "inspiration" on those teams


No.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:47 pm to
So what? Teammates don't have to have circlejerks together. Just make your buckets, play D and everything will be all good.

Then again Harden doesn't play D and D-Howard sucks on offense so that may be the point of friction.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111291 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:47 pm to
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OKC would never have won a championship with Harden.
Who knows, but they're not as good without him IMO, so logic would say they're also not going to win one without him.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111291 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:47 pm to
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Well, Dwight has been to the Finals... so I guess being a leader is over-rated.
It's wayyyyyyyy overrated.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:51 pm to
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D-Howard sucks on offense


Signed,

Couch potato fan
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30190 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:54 pm to
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You're basing that off a foreign radio interview with a benchwarmer? C'mon brah. DM is looking for playing time and he's not getting those minutes in HOU.



Basing it off what I see and hear from my own friends/family in Houston.

Look at it: Is Dwight or has he ever shown leadership? Orlando - no, LA - no (I don't hold this against him, Kobe is just a dick lol), and Houston - no.

Is Harden? I honestly don't think so if he's gonna come out saying "me and dwight are cornerstones and everyone is a role player"

Even superstars who know they're the franchise don't come out spewing and throwing other team members under the bus to the press. You don't hear LeBron or KD publicly saying: I won this shite for us. Part of being a good leader is keeping drama to a bare minimum so there's no discord between you and your teammates. Did Wade/LeBron talk in private man we carry this team, etc? Sure, but part of being a good leader doesn't let that get out
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
35048 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 12:57 pm to
Harden and Howard are both great players, 2 of the best in the league by any standard.

I'm just saying that a vacuum at the leadership position has never boded well for NBA teams trying to win a championship.

It doesn't necessarily have to be either of those guys - I don't even know if it can be - but someone has to assume that role. (My money is on Beverley.)
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10724 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 2:46 pm to
I have worked private security for Harden. He is great to kids but a complete A-Hole to adults including other players. Camers go on and he is fine. Cameras go off and you see what a jerk he really is.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59715 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 2:54 pm to
I'm sure the same could be said for most professional athletes, especially when you only have limited interaction with them. For every athlete out there there's a story about them being an a-hole to someone.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27350 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 3:06 pm to
Dwight seems like a nice guy to everybody and seems like he's involved with his teammates.

Harden seems like he can be an arse and seems to keep to himself.
Posted by Doink
Greatna
Member since Sep 2012
413 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 5:41 pm to
Nba offseason Boom. Don't take posts so seriously. Seriously.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22782 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 6:12 pm to
Geez...whole story turns out to be total bullshite! And how many outlets just ran with it?

quote:

istening to interview just now. Some things really got lost in translation. Some questions-answers:
Q: Who is the hardest player to defend? A: Probably Zach Randolph, he has a lot of great moves.
Q: Where would you like to play if you had to leave Rockets? A: probably LA Lakers. They do not have many great big men, I would have an opportunity to show myself.
Q: When communicating with Howard and Harden, what do you talk about? A: Basically I say just "Hello" and "Goodbye" to them. Q: They don't invite you to barbecue or something? A: No, they eat different food than me. Q: What? Do you mean they eat oysters? A: No... being European, I am more likely to eat oyster than them. They eat fast food.
Q: What was your worst game in NBA? A: There were 44 games when I stayed on the bench for the whole game. All these games were the worst, I would say. Q: And which was your best game? A: I honestly don't remember.
Q: You once said to Dwight Howard "Catch me if you can". Did he reacted to this saying in any way? A: Yeah, we sometimes make jokes about it during practice. He is a fun guy to be around in general. He is the soul of the team, someone who is fun to have in a locker room.
Q: Are you forbidden to say certain things because of your contract? A: well, yes. For example, I can't tweet or facebook anything about the state of my injury if I have one, until it's medically confirmed.


Credit to a Lithuanian poster on reddit.
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 6:16 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27350 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 7:12 pm to
See, told you guys it was probably lost in translation.
Posted by Fall Creek Tiger
Spring, TX
Member since Jul 2009
1195 posts
Posted on 8/8/14 at 8:32 pm to
This is so far from the truth. The team hung out all the time together. Went to dinner and movies all the time on the road. Watch pregame during a Rockets game. You can't tell me those guys aren't close.

Also, I love how people in this thread act like they personally know the players.
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