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re: Casualty in the War on Drugs
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:18 pm to stout
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:18 pm to stout
well a draconian system of punishment, especially for a first offense without any victims, and the ensuing societal scarlet letter of a felony, is kind of a disproportionate price to pay (again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that caused no direct injury to others)
You don't know that for a fact. To know that you would have to track it from it's origins.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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(again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
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(again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
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(again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well a draconian system of punishment, especially for a first offense without any victims, and the ensuing societal scarlet letter of a felony, is kind of a disproportionate price to pay (again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
It's scary how few people seem to realize how punitive the drug sentencing systems are.
I know a guy that got popped on the street with an eight ball five years back - wasn't even his, he was getting it for a friend. He came from a politically connected family in his city; an Attorney, his old man leveraged a lot of weight to make it disappear.
This guy was early thirties at the time, credentialed, and upwardly mobile. He still had to sweat out the process for a year.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well a draconian system of punishment, especially for a first offense without any victims, and the ensuing societal scarlet letter of a felony, is kind of a disproportionate price to pay (again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
The punishment may, or may not be harsh depending on each persons point of view. For the one who casually uses drugs, I'm sure he believes it's draconian; for the kids of my cousin who recently died from drug use, it's probably just punishment.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others
Cocaine is not a natural substance. It is lab-processed from its original form. Not suggesting your point is any more or less valid because of it, but if you are attempting to make this distinction, I just feel as if it should be the right one. Maybe I missed your intent.
And on that same note, it annoys me that the coca leaf, particularly in tea (though dip/chew forms would be nice, too) isn't available in the US legally.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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well a draconian system of punishment, especially for a first offense without any victims, and the ensuing societal scarlet letter of a felony, is kind of a disproportionate price to pay (again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
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Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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well a draconian system of punishment, especially for a first offense without any victims, and the ensuing societal scarlet letter of a felony, is kind of a disproportionate price to pay (again, for possessing a natural substance that caused no direct injury to others)
I hate agreeing with yoy
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