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re: Possible Tinder Rape...in BR

Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 10:50 pm to
look at this disgusting Slate article about the Hofstra false rape case

quote:

n the Hofstra case, the false charges unraveled in less than 72 hours. A week ago, an 18-year-old student told police she'd been gang raped in a bathroom on campus by five men she'd met at a party the police had broken up. The details were tabloid lurid: The student said she'd been tricked into a public men's room after one of the men stole her cell phone and then roped it to a toilet stall. By Wednesday, she'd admitted the sex was consensual. Her nonassailants were released after two nights in jail. She was suspended from school.


what is her name? we don't even know because they refuse to report the name of a woman who admitted to lying about rape

now look at this last paragraph

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Let's agree that something disturbing happened to that 18-year-old woman at Hofstra. Something she feels awful about. Any good, right-thinking feminist, and any good girlfriend, would encourage her to talk to a counselor about her story. The problem is that by going to the police and then recanting, she fit into a new story that backfires on her and on feminism in an ugly way. She becomes the false accuser, and the boys, like the Duke boys, become the victims. In these moments of recantation, all we can talk about is how wrong she was. And then we lose the conversation that happens at a level beneath the law: about how these late-night moments in a random bathroom that everyone regrets can stop before they start. I'm not sure how you do that. But I wish this was where we'd go, now that we know that whatever happened to this girl, it wasn't the legal definition of rape.


the author decries that fact that the actual victims (who spent 2 days in jail and had THEIR names all over the news) are, in fact, victims. the entire argument presupposes that something "disturbing" happened, even though the girl admitted she consented to it. further, the last sentence tries to turn this into a "possible rape, just not against the law" argument
Posted by prince of fools
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1130 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:43 pm to
I've met this guy before. He's possibly the biggest tool I've ever talked to. Not surprised at all that he's the focus of such a case
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:54 pm to
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The percentage of unreported serious violent victimizations declined from 50 percent in 1994 to 42 percent in 2010



Like there is any possible way anyone can know this!
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
21749 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:28 am to
UPDATE 7/30 LINK

quote:

Jacob Hirsch Witz


quote:

The woman told police "Jake" is a massage therapist and weight trainer who drives a silver Camero.


Guido.

quote:

When 22-year-old Jacob Hirsch Witz arrived, they sat on the couch and talked a while and moved to the bedroom to talk. The woman's statement to police says Witz became suddenly aggressive and pulled her shorts off. She goes on to say that he slapped her across the face, ripped off her shirt and bra and raped her as she begged him to stop.


Sounds like rape.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:32 am to
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Like there is any possible way anyone can know this!



it's more feminist claptrap bullshite to continue their 'war"
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:33 am to
Or it is comparing a survey to crime stats but you can call it feminist claptrap bullshite if you want.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Or it is comparing a survey to crime stats




if things are unreported, how do they know percentage decrease. it's a joke, at best.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120795 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:35 am to
Move to the bedroom to talk lol
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:37 am to
1. Gather police reported crime statistics.

2. Administer survey to nationally representative sample.

3. Compare numbers.


Sure you can argue the limitations but it isn't a joke.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:40 am to
What's the lying whore look like?

My only question
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125592 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Who meets someone for the first time at their house. That's just bad decision making.



When I used to meet chicks from online they would love to come over the first meet and let me cook dinner and have drinks. Which usually led to well you know.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:12 pm to
Twenty five percent of reported ones are fake...Yet a survey will be more or less truthful?

Like I said, a joke.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52189 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Move to the bedroom to talk lol



LINK
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:18 pm to
Sure, people may lie on a survey but they have almost no reason to. A whole lot less reasons than to lie to the police.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
51391 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Police found Witz and before they could read him his Miranda Rights, he told them he was not answering any questions and wanted an attorney.


Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81327 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:21 pm to
Just got an e-mail from STAR (still trying to keep volunteering with them despite now working a lot) about the community's response to this whole situation.

They will be on the news discussing this as well.

quote:

Tune into the local news tonight for statements from Executive Director Racheal Hebert:

WBRZ Channel 2: 4:00 p.m., 5:00 p.m. and 6:00 p.m.

NBC 33: 5:00 p.m., 6:30 p.m.

FOX 44: 9:00 p.m.

Catch the Jim Engster Show tomorrow, July 31st at 9:00 a.m. on 89.3 WRKF to hear Executive Director Racheal Hebert discuss these issues on air.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101940 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:23 pm to
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STAR


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