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re: Would you have supported a smaller healthcare reform act, specifically one that

Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:30 pm to
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Is is ok for a person to not have insurance and then be diagnosed with an illness or disease that requires lots of money to treat and insurance should have to cover it?

Not in my book.

So, I see three NO votes here. Good. Such a law would have been nonsensical and would have closed down private health insurance companies.

So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:31 pm to
Open competition amongst insurance companies between states, for starters. One of them may come up with a profitable solution.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45829 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:39 pm to
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?


I like the ideas from that dumb Dr. from Yale...
This post was edited on 7/27/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 6:47 pm to
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage?


If they were able bodied and could work, I would tell them to go get a job with insurance. And, for these purposes, no job with insurance is beneath them.

If they aren't able bodied, I would require them to pay what they could, and have some sort of separate pool for them -- somewhat like Medicaid.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28866 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:27 pm to
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?
Yes. That's how life insurance works too.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35493 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:31 am to
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?
The assistance should be for people who develop conditions to never lose insurance in the first place. Leaving a job shouldn't require you to get a new insurance policy. And most importantly, people should be required to have insurance now.

The only "extra" support you would need would be for pre-existing conditions to get from a point where people don't have coverage to where everyone has coverage.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36329 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 11:35 am to
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?


How about a "tax' on insurance companies and thus their customers setting up a pool of last resort to catch those that have a preexisting condition and can't get insurance through regular means?
Posted by DaGarun
Smashville
Member since Nov 2007
26190 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 7:09 pm to
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So, now, what would have been your remedy for people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't afford health care coverage? Just let them die?

No. Not that it matters anymore, but I supported some sort of plan that:
- Provided what used to be called "hospitalization" coverage. Likely mandated, probably subsidized
- had a robust HSA-type system that brought the consumer to the point of purchase, removing the 3rd party intermediary for common and/or routine services. Rollover provision and some eventual cash value would help discourage overutilization.
- had some sort of high-risk pool to accommodate chronic patients with PECs.

The first two items allow insurance companies to go back to their roots: indemnification (and shouldn't break the bank)

The third is just something I think we can and should do for American citizens (and it won't break the bank, either)

Not your typical Tea Party response, I know. But like I said: it doesn't matter anymore what I think. We have the crappy law Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and all the other sycophants shoved down America's throat.

It sucks. But single-payor is gonna be worse. (and it will break the bank.)
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