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Which Team is Worse WITHOUT Their Star- Saints/Broncos
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:57 pm
Take Drew Brees off the Saints.
Take Peyton Manning off the Broncos.
And assuming each is replaced with the same average quarterback, which team is better/worse, and why.
I still think the Broncos are a playoff team with an average qb. As for the Saints, i'm not so sure.
What's your take?
Take Peyton Manning off the Broncos.
And assuming each is replaced with the same average quarterback, which team is better/worse, and why.
I still think the Broncos are a playoff team with an average qb. As for the Saints, i'm not so sure.
What's your take?
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 9:58 pm
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:58 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Most years, I would agree with you.
That Saints defense is fantastic. I think they'll take a slight step back, but still be a top 5-7 kinda defense this year.
Yes they would both compete.
That Saints defense is fantastic. I think they'll take a slight step back, but still be a top 5-7 kinda defense this year.
Yes they would both compete.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 9:59 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
this looks like the start to a 'Brees should be MVP' thread 
I'll go with Denver as the better team.
I'll go with Denver as the better team.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:03 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
This is tough. Broncos have better skill position guys to pick up the slack, but the Saints have a better defense.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:24 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
It is hard to say. the D-line of saints is better.But as a whole, i think broncos is better.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:30 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Brees is closer to a system quarterback than Manning is.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:38 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Saints defense shite the bed maybe once or twice last year. Offense sputtered a lot more than their #s show (A lot more 3 and outs than usual in the CSP era) and if you put Alex Smith on the team, they still get more wins than atlanta imo.
Denver got hit bad with injuries on their defense and the offensive players looked vastly better since Manning got there (Look at Decker and Thomas' numbers before) and the run game has more lanes. Every OL benefits from Manning's quick release as well. Take away Manning and put in Alex Smith, they fall way...way down. That defense was pretty horrid.
Denver got hit bad with injuries on their defense and the offensive players looked vastly better since Manning got there (Look at Decker and Thomas' numbers before) and the run game has more lanes. Every OL benefits from Manning's quick release as well. Take away Manning and put in Alex Smith, they fall way...way down. That defense was pretty horrid.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:49 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
saints would be better with payton still calling plays and ryan with the defense IMO
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:00 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Both teams would be average at best, but the Saints have better coaching, so I think that would give them the edge.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:02 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
i think with Sean Payton the Saints would still get "good" QB play. Remember how many picks Brees threw when Sean was suspended? And while he was pretty good in San Diego he was nothing like what he has been with SP.
so, to answer your question, the Broncos would be worse.
so, to answer your question, the Broncos would be worse.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:59 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
The Saints have a better defense and better coaching. If things continue as they did once Armstead replaced Charlie Brown, they'll have a better running game. Broncos would be worse off. So if the two teams finish the season with similar records and they have similar stats, then yes, Manning deserves the MVP over Brees. Of course Brees deserved it over Manning in 2009 (especially if they made the decision AFTER the postseason), but whatever.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 2:04 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Broncos made it to the playoffs the year before with Tim fricking Tebow at the helm.
Posted on 7/24/14 at 5:14 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Brock Osweiler FTW
Posted on 7/24/14 at 7:34 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Take QB's away from both and I think the Broncos could win their division easier than the Saints could in this situation.
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