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re: Drone law: what is "felony unlawful surveillance"?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:46 pm to LSUtoOmaha
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:46 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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How is that legal, because the camera is on the ground?
Yes.
You're in a public street, where you have a legal right to be/ Flying a "drone" right next to the window to video the inside or up over a privacy fence is a different story.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:47 pm to brass2mouth
So I guess someone owns the air then, no?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:50 pm to The Third Leg
Actually, in some areas, people do own air rights. Not sure if that is relevant here though
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:50 pm to novabill
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Privacy was not reached due to tinted window. So what was tbe illegal act?
It says the crime was felony unlawful surveillance. Just because he didn't get anything doesn't mean he didn't surveil.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:54 pm to The Third Leg
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So I guess someone owns the air then, no?
If it's your property then yea, you own the air. In places like New York City, there are very complex air rights laws; if you haven't sold your air rights, you own them.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:57 pm to Corkfather
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Just because he didn't get anything doesn't mean he didn't surveil.
that's a dumb argument. by your logic, had he been videoing a building with no windows at all then he could've been charged legitimately with this crime.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 6:57 pm to The Third Leg
quote:
So I guess someone owns the air then, no?
You do have a reasonable expectation of privacy up to a certain altitude if memory serves.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:01 pm to McLemore
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that's a dumb argument. by your logic, had he been videoing a building with no windows at all then he could've been charged legitimately with this crime.
Look up the definition of surveillance.
It's monitoring behavior, activity, or other changing information. Videotaping a building that has no activity taking place would not fall under that definition.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:16 pm to Iona Fan Man
Basically it is illegal except when the government does it. Then, it is perfectly legal
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:18 pm to Corkfather
quote:Not in Louisiana. Don't have to tell them you're recording.
I know it's illegal to record audio without consent.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:20 pm to Corkfather
quote:
Look up the definition of surveillance.
quote:
sur·veil·lance
noun \s?r-'va-l?n(t)s also -'val-y?n(t)s or -'va-?n(t)s\
: the act of carefully watching someone or something especially in order to prevent or detect a crime
My Merriam-Webster definition trumps your Wikipedia definition.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:30 pm to Corkfather
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Videotaping a building that has no activity taking place would not fall under that definition.
videotaping a building that did have activity taking place but was impossible to see inside wouldn't either.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:56 pm to Iona Fan Man
Hmm. Drone law, you say? I don't know anyone who specializes in that, but this guy might be able to help.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 8:31 pm to Iona Fan Man
A person is guilty of unlawful surveillance in the second degree when:
1. For his or her own, or another person's amusement, entertainment, or profit, or for the purpose of degrading or abusing a person, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person at a place and time when such person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, without such person's knowledge or consent; or
2. For his or her own, or another person's sexual arousal or sexual gratification, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person at a place and time when such person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, without such person's knowledge or consent; . . .
LINK
1. For his or her own, or another person's amusement, entertainment, or profit, or for the purpose of degrading or abusing a person, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person at a place and time when such person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, without such person's knowledge or consent; or
2. For his or her own, or another person's sexual arousal or sexual gratification, he or she intentionally uses or installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person at a place and time when such person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, without such person's knowledge or consent; . . .
LINK
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 10:48 pm to TigerstuckinMS
haha. my friend ravi played a lawyer on it's always sunny once.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:16 pm to Corkfather
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Just because he didn't get anything doesn't mean he didn't surveil.
Can you "surveil" through a brick wall or tinted glass? I'm guessing that surveillance has something to do with seeing?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:19 pm to bradwieser
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broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person
quote:
installs, or permits the utilization or installation of an imaging device to surreptitiously view, broadcast or record a person dressing or undressing or the sexual or other intimate parts of such person
According to this there would need to be nudity or sexual activity going on?
Posted on 7/16/14 at 11:23 pm to novabill
There is usually nudity involved when they cut you open.
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