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re: NASA: Humans will prove we are not alone in the universe within 20 years.

Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by LoveHandle
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:36 pm to
I thought NASA's foremost mission was to improve relations with the Muslim world?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:37 pm to
They may keep it secret though. The shitstorm that will ensue when we discover alien life will be the single greatest discovery in mankind's history. It would answer the ultimate question of "Are we alone?" and the most irrational and violent among us probably aren't going to like the answer. The Middle East and much of Africa and the Bible Belt will be a clusterfrick. There will be tons of irrational violence from the Middle East, and the results won't be pretty.
Posted by FairhopeTider
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:37 pm to
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Even if there was an intelligent species sending out signals up until 100 years ago we wouldn't have known about it. So what if we are sending out radio signals and no one is hearing them either because they


That basically sums it up.

Of course we could get some signal and realize that it came from the other side of the galaxy...which would mean it covered 100,000 light years to get here. So whatever message we see is from the ancient past of a civilization that might not even exist anymore.
Posted by MetArl15
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:42 pm to
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but I am really curious how religious people will respond to the news
Haven't read the whole thread yet, so it may have been discussed, but I'd guess that the world's biggest religions likely have a response already set up for if/when this happens. They know the shitstorm that would follow so they'd be myopic not to have prepared for this at least superficially. Sort of like a religious war game.
Posted by beejon
University Of Louisiana Warhawks
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:44 pm to
If life was found on another planet, how did it get there? Still doesn't answer the 'how was life created' question.
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:44 pm to
Well duh.

Anyone is dreaming thinking we're alone in the universe when there are billions upon trillions of other Earth like planets in the universe.

The universe is too big for us to be alone.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:45 pm to
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The Middle East and much of Africa and the Bible Belt will be a clusterfrick. There will be tons of irrational violence from the Middle East, and the results won't be pretty.


So pretty much nothing will change?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:47 pm to
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I knew this would happen.

Don't turn my thread into a religion vs. science debate assholes.


It's inevitable because we don't live in a vacuum. I mean, yeah the planet is in space and space is a vacuum, but you know what I'm saying.
Posted by DanMullins4Life
Member since Oct 2012
3168 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:48 pm to
20 years from now.

NASA: J/K.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:48 pm to
Knock yourselves out with the fermi paradox. Long read:

LINK

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If we’re neither rare nor early, Group 1 thinkers conclude that The Great Filter must be in our future. This would suggest that life regularly evolves to where we are, but that something prevents life from going much further and reaching high intelligence in almost all cases—and we’re unlikely to be an exception.

One possible future Great Filter is a regularly-occurring cataclysmic natural event, like the above-mentioned gamma-ray bursts, except they’re unfortunately not done yet and it’s just a matter of time before all life on Earth is suddenly wiped out by one. Another candidate is the possible inevitability that nearly all intelligent civilizations end up destroying themselves once a certain level of technology is reached.

This is why Oxford University philosopher Nick Bostrom says that “no news is good news.” The discovery of even simple life on Mars would be devastating, because it would cut out a number of potential Great Filters behind us. And if we were to find fossilized complex life on Mars, Bostrom says “it would be by far the worst news ever printed on a newspaper cover,” because it would mean The Great Filter is almost definitely ahead of us—ultimately dooming the species. Bostrom believes that when it comes to The Fermi Paradox, “the silence of the night sky is golden.”
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Fat and Happy
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:50 pm to
I'm down with drinking some alien beer with them.
And I bet alien drugs are some intense stuff
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:50 pm to
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It's better any intelligent life that can travel the vast distances of interstellar space not know we are here. Think Native Americans V. European Colonists.



I'm sick of this defeatist attitude. I'll fight these fricking aliens, then enslave their men for labor and their women for sex.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20843 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:52 pm to
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Anyone is dreaming thinking we're alone in the universe when there are billions upon trillions of other Earth like planets in the universe.


But there is something to the point that the time & distance between civilizations could be so vast that we might as well be alone.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:55 pm to
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Yeah, what religion is contingent on there NOT being aliens?


Basically any religion or denomination that thinks having fun is a sin. Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, Church of Christ, etc would not believe it until the second the aliens landed on Earth. People deny global warming and evolution, do you really think people who don't believe in evolution would be cool with a species that has advanced millions of years ahead of us exists? No, they'd deny it since it's highly unlikely for quite some time that we'd be able to see them, just have compelling evidence that they exist.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109875 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:57 pm to
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I believe there is life on other planets but I don't believe we will ever see it. NASA must be looking for funding.


Well, no shite they're looking for funding, since Obama has neutered them to be a mere weather prediction wing of the government.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109875 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Was it Carl Sagan that predicted that we would be squashed like ants if we ever encountered a race advanced enough to travel interstellar distances?


Actually, Sagan did the absolute opposite of that. He put maps to our planet in the Voyager probes, as well as numerous sounds and music from our planet, as well as algorithms that an advance species most certainly already discovered.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Basically any religion or denomination that thinks having fun is a sin. Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, Church of Christ, etc would not believe it until the second the aliens landed on Earth. People deny global warming and evolution, do you really think people who don't believe in evolution would be cool with a species that has advanced millions of years ahead of us exists? No, they'd deny it since it's highly unlikely for quite some time that we'd be able to see them, just have compelling evidence that they exist.



So, you are complaining that a religious person would want definitive proof that they exist before they believed it?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16635 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:04 pm to
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the researcher that talked to us says they are making advancements in being able to tell composition of atmospheres, and you can induce if plant life and/or animal life was present based off the composition of the atmosphere.


I don't see how they can really tell the composition of some atmosphere light years away by looking at it with a telescope. I get that they think they can in theory, but I don't really see how that could ever be proven
Posted by Wolfgang Wolfhausen
Little Rock, AR
Member since Jul 2014
187 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:08 pm to
I'll be the first to admit that Carl Sagan is infinitely smarter than I will ever be, but am I the only idiot here that thinks that was a terrible idea? I don't want us to be discovered until we can at least fight back, whatever is out there might be a whole lot like us.
Posted by Asharad
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 4:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/31/14 at 9:07 am
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