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re: Game of Thrones S4:E9: "The Watchers on the Wall", HODORS ONLY (no readers)

Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Jarlaxle
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:29 pm to
I think I found it, "carry you into the sea and let you be washed away"

I just don't remember him saying it was because of what the God's would say that he didn't, it was because he was a Lannister that he didn't.
Posted by Billy Mays
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Why?


Bc he's a Lannister.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:32 pm to
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Kashonly


It's spelled "Tyrion" FFS
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:35 pm to
so I was banned when that whole Shea shite happened....was she a plant of LF's or was she just mad and wanted to see him killed or was she threatened and forced to betray TyriOn?
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Tyrion - maybe he's reached his full potential and the only left is death?


If that's the case he's in luck. Seems like the only characters that get offed are the ones that have unlimited potential left. But at the same time well liked characters always meet a gruesome death. Other than that prick Joffrey of course.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:43 pm to
No one knows.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:05 pm to
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so I was banned when that whole Shea shite happened....was she a plant of LF's or was she just mad and wanted to see him killed or was she threatened and forced to betray TyriOn?


That's uncertain - if she's a plant by LF, he was playing a long game, because she was a camp girl when Tyrion met her.

As far as why she turned - she was compromised in some way - Cersei knew about her, ultimately Tywin found out, could have even been Varys, but that's unlikely. Any one of them would have ben in a position to compensate her. Cersei and Tywin got Bronn out of the way.

She may have even come forward on her own because she was angry and approached one or more of the above players. I don't think it is completely clear how it all went down, though.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:10 pm to
We know Bronn was bought out by Cersei, could he have been influenced by Cersei before the Purple Wedding even occurred?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:12 pm to
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We know Bronn was bought out by Cersei, could he have been influenced by Cersei before the Purple Wedding even occurred?


I don't think we have any idea about the nature and extent of their contacts. I doubt it - the move to sever Bronn was apparently done to deprive Tyrion of a champion - what they didn't know is that Bronn was too smart to do it - so they were paying for something they would have gotten for free.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:27 pm to
so is there a consensus that there is some secret background behind Shea that we'll find out later?

Her story was that some slave saved her brother from drowning or something so she gave up her position and moved away to be a whore?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:36 pm to
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so is there a consensus that there is some secret background behind Shea that we'll find out later?


I'm just wondering how the hell they found her. Bronn assured Tyrion that she was safe on a ship sailing away. Cersei knew about Shea, which is why Tyrion had to send her away, so did she pay off Bronn to find Shea?

Other than that, all I care of Shea's backstory is "She's a fricking whore". One that needs a dagger slowly pushed into her ear, but just a common whore. She's one of the worst and most annoying characters on the show and she's so fricking stupid that she couldn't see Tyrion was trying to protect her and then flat made shite up on the stand to get even with Tyrion.

I want her to die slowly and painfully.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted by TotesMcGotes
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:39 pm to
I hate the Jon Snow storyline but I love a lot of the storylines that most posters hate. I'm ok with that.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:44 pm to
For some reason I wasn't overly convinced when Bronn initially told Tyrion that she was on the boat.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:49 pm to
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I'm just wondering how the hell they found her. Bronn assured Tyrion that she was safe on a ship sailing away. Cersei knew about Shea, which is why Tyrion had to send her away, so did she pay off Bronn to find Shea?


Just because she was on a ship to be sent away doesn't mean she ever made it out of the harbor.

A lot of this shite could've been avoided if Tyrion hadn't done that stupid "instead of just explaining to you what the frick is going on, I'm going to make you hate me until you want to leave" move. Which is the dumbest thing ever.
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 2:58 pm to
I still think only reason Shae testified is because her family is in danger somehow.

Remember how panicked she looked when Tyrion asked for the trial by combat?
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:00 pm to
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Remember how panicked she looked when Tyrion asked for the trial by combat?


She probably still cares for him - heck Tywin probably told her about the deal - she thought he was going to The Wall - as did Jaime. Everyone looked panicked when he asked for trial by combat, except Tyrion.
Posted by jeff5891
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:14 pm to
In
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:15 pm to
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I still think only reason Shae testified is because her family is in danger somehow.


Testifying is one thing but she personally attacked him by using intimate details of their relationship. She's a count that needs to die.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 3:16 pm to
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She's a count that needs to die.
where is joffrey's crossbow?
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