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re: Official WWDC Thread

Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by jampat
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:43 pm to
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All the Apple fan boys at work, who are dev guys and develop an iPhone app in-house, are extremely disappointed with today's news


Don't know who you are talking about but I know a few developers and they are pumped! They arent excited about learning some new termonolgy when writing programs but they will be ok.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:48 pm to
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All the Apple fan boys at work, who are dev guys and develop an iPhone app in-house, are extremely disappointed with today's news


I haven't talked to anyone yet, but if I were a iOS developer I would be amped about this.

Ultimately they'll be able to creat better apps with less effort and have the option to beta test publicly. I don't know what's there is to be disappointed about.
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:48 pm to
These are Indian(dot) guys who work as software developers and are extremely familiar with the platform
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:49 pm to
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I don't know what's there is to be disappointed about.

They expected more is all I know
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:49 pm to
What are they saying specifically?

Not flaming just genuinely curious. I'm not an iOS developer so I might be missing something.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:51 pm to
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They expected more is all I know


Gotcha. Hmmm. Maybe they were looking at it as users. If that's the case I get it.
Posted by chris44gwlsu
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:12 pm to
I'm ok with it. I don't mind learning another language. I write for ios and android so I don't really consider myself a fanboi. I own multiple products of both. I'm interested to see what's new in xcode.
Posted by Modern
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:23 pm to
Just left work. Cliffs on everything that was announced?
Posted by hikingfan
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:57 pm to
OSX Yosemite Preview

iOS 8 preview

quote:

Biggest features from the Apple WWDC14:

3rd party keyboard support, iCloud drive, actionable notifications with widget support, SMS support for Mac, phone calls from Mac, family sharing of iOS apps, music, movies etc., parental approval for app purchase

quote:

Notification Center
Interactive notifications let users pull down notifications and interact with them to respond to text messages or other notifications without leaving the current open app, or complete actions from notifications shown on the lock screen. In a demo, Craig Federighi was able to reply to an iMessage and like a Facebook post directly from the on-screen notification, which popped over a separate app he was using.

Keyboard Enhancements
A new feature in the iOS keyboard called QuickType, adds predictive typing suggestions that adapt to the current context. QuickType learns each users habits and language while protecting privacy. Along with QuickType enhancing the existing iOS keyboards, Apple is going to allow users to install third-party keyboards for the first time, which means keyboards like Swype can be used natively on the operating system.



Messages Improvements
Messages gets the ability to name conversation threads, add and remove people from group conversations, allow users to leave group conversations, a feature that has been much-requested by users. In addition to leaving a message thread, users also have the option to turn on "Do Not Disturb," which will mute message notifications from a noisy group message thread.

With iOS 8, Messages allows users to share their locations right within the app. It also allows audio and video messages to be recorded directly in the Messages app and sent to friends. These messages can be viewed inline or via the lock screen. Craig Federighi showed off a neat trick with an audio message -- he held the phone up to his ear to reply, with the message automatically sending when he lowered the phone.

HealthKit
HealthKit is a new feature that will gather and consolidate users' health information from multiple sources and apps, such as those from Nike and Fitbit. A corresponding "Health" app will monitor fitness metrics, linking into third-party apps to gather data.

Apple has been testing HealthKit with the Mayo Clinic, letting patients and doctors work together using HealthKit to get personalized thresholds for readings, notifying doctors automatically when something is wrong.

HealthKit aims to bridge the gap between patients, doctors, and health-tracking devices. According to the Mayo Clinic, HealthKit has the potential to "revolutionize" how the health industry works.

Siri
Siri gets several updates, with the ability to be invoked hands-free with the phrase "Hey, Siri" along with Shazam voice recognition, 22 new dictation languages, streaming voice recognition to show users search results as they speak, and more.

Extensibility
There were a whole slew of new APIs mentioned for developers, and one of the most exciting of those was Extensibility. This feature allows apps within iOS 8 to share information with each other and with the Notification Center. Demoed on stage, Extensibility allowed filters from third-party apps to be used directly on pictures within the Photos app and it also brought Bing translation to Safari. The possibilities here really are endless.

Extensibility also allows apps to install widgets within the Notification Center, which work similar to existing Apple widgets for the Calendar, Stocks, and more. This was demoed with a Sports Center widget, which allowed sports scores to be displayed automatically within Notification Center. Developers will also be able to access Touch ID for the first time to protect sensitive apps.

Family Sharing
A Family Sharing feature will let families share photos, calendars, reminders, and more among up to six family members at once. Family Sharing also allows families (of up to 6 people) with Apple ID accounts using the same credit card to share apps and books. With Family Sharing enabled, when a child purchases an app, an adult will get a popup on their own device asking them to okay the purchase.



The following devices will be able to run iOS 8: iPhone 4s, iPhone 5, iPhone 5c, iPhone 5s, iPod touch 5th generation, iPad 2, iPad with Retina Display, iPad Air, iPad mini, and iPad mini with Retina display.

iOS 8 will be available to developers as a beta today and it will be released to the public in the fall.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:17 pm to
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I don't mind learning another language. I write for ios and android so I don't really consider myself a fanboi

Why would you need to learn a new language if you already write for iOS? You may need to learn some new frameworks and things of that nature, but not a new language
Posted by SprintFun
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:43 pm to
Its comical how far Apple has fallen.

These threads would be dozens of pages back in the day.

New features in ios8 are already available in android - there's a shocker.
Posted by dlambe5
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 4:46 pm to
So when my wife sends me dirty pics and videos via messages, it will be blasted full screen and on speaker phone for all to see and hear? GREAT
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:01 pm to
I was mayyyybe considering trying iOS again after a couple years of android but this update is a frickin joke
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 5:09 pm to
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Its comical how far Apple has fallen.

These threads would be dozens of pages back in the day.


apple is still largely ignoring the fact that they dont own the market anymore. they could get away with underwhelming feature updates in the past because they would occasionally hit a homerun with a revolutionay product (ipod, ipad, iphone).

however i dont think the smart watch, an integrated 'fitbit' in the OS or a unified app to control your AC & lights is that next great idea.

its honestly funny that i was using swype on my ancient MDA in 2008 and now apple is trying to energize their base by allowing swype to sell their keyboard in the apple store?

eta, its more dramatic when you see this is what apple has done for the last 7 years.

it really underscores how dated the iphone design is now.

compare it to just ONE of its competitors.


This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 6:35 pm to
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compare it to just ONE of its competitors.


I'm thinking about getting the Lg G3 instead of the iPhone 6. Apple is a bit behind the mark, apparently.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:13 pm to
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apple is still largely ignoring the fact that they dont own the market anymore. they could get away with underwhelming feature updates in the past because they would occasionally hit a homerun with a revolutionay product (ipod, ipad, iphone).

They're about to release a brand new phone and they just completely overhauled their entire operating system less than a hear ago. Why would they overhaul it again? I saw tons of improvements today that I really liked and will use regularly. Not to mention the iwatch is basically a given to be announced sometime this year. Considering how much their dedicating to it developer wise, it should be a huge success.

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however i dont think the smart watch, an integrated 'fitbit' in the OS or a unified app to control your AC & lights is that next great idea.

IMO a smart watch is the next level of progression in mobile technology. I think there could be limitless possibilities with how to implement it.

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its honestly funny that i was using swype on my ancient MDA in 2008 and now apple is trying to energize their base by allowing swype to sell their keyboard in the apple store?

This wasn't in any way a major part of the presentation...so I'm not sure what your point is here besides mindless bashing.

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eta, its more dramatic when you see this is what apple has done for the last 7 years.

And...? The S series you chose to compare it to has basically the same exact design as well, besides the fact that it gets a little bigger every year. Not to mention the picture only shows black iPhones while it shows multiple color S's. Design isn't just in the phone shape, it's about the software as well, which is completely lost in that

You really just sound like someone who has an immensely inflated sense of self importance to come into an apple based thread talking about android. Chicken specifically did not want that going on in here but hey, I guess you can't help yourself. I'm sure it's too much for you to handle to have an objective discussion on the topic.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:31 pm to
You are tiresome.
Posted by chris44gwlsu
Berlin, Germany
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 10:18 pm to
I wouldn't 'have' to but I deem it important enough that I should learn it. I guess that's me though. Whatever works for anyone else.
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