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re: Brees: New stadiums becoming crucial for cities to land Super Bowls
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:00 am to Zoombop
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:00 am to Zoombop
Can't agree more...
The fact that is still relevant today is a testament to the remarkable engineering that it took to create it. You have Atlanta who did such a terrible job with the GA Dome and had to bulldoze entire neighborhoods to build Optimus Prime's Anus. It'll probably be torn down/replaced in another 20 years. The Minnesota Metrodome couldn't handle snow, and Oakland still hasn't installed complementary flak jacket dispensers at all entrances.
The fact that is still relevant today is a testament to the remarkable engineering that it took to create it. You have Atlanta who did such a terrible job with the GA Dome and had to bulldoze entire neighborhoods to build Optimus Prime's Anus. It'll probably be torn down/replaced in another 20 years. The Minnesota Metrodome couldn't handle snow, and Oakland still hasn't installed complementary flak jacket dispensers at all entrances.
This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:02 am to Zoombop
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Brees: New stadiums becoming crucial for cities to land Super Bowls
I think it would have been more accurate for him to say...
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Brees: New stadiums becoming absolutely crucial for northern cold as f@ck cities to land Super Bowls
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:08 am to bountyhunter
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Of course it wasn't a shock to me because I understood the difference, but hearing those grown men whine about minor issue x, y, z was quite hilarious.
That is funny. I can imagine Tiger Stadium being underwhelming if you aren't an LSU fan and are going there for a Saints game. Now that you say it, it's really the crowd and atmosphere surrounding LSU football that makes a game in Tiger Stadium so great.
I agree, though. There are definitely a few more things they can do to better the Superdome for the next 10-20 years. I can certainly see New Orleans getting at least one more Super Bowl with the current stadium, but if they are going to be picky about new stadiums for hosts, I definitely can't see more than one, MAYBE two.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 10:22 am to DCBJR6
NOLA is number 1 in hosting SB's for a reason. Everyone with the money loves coming to New Orleans for the big show.
We will get more than one I promise you.
We will get more than one I promise you.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 11:19 am to bountyhunter
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I realize the local teams are taxed, but what I am saying is the NFL is a profitable, executive corporation that is being allowed to operate in a non-profit status. They do more than the standard "trade association" status would imply, they hand out millions of dollars to locations based on those locations' willingness to give them free stuff, suspend employees based on the rules they impose, have the authority to block citizens from entering games (which are in publicly-funded facilities), hike prices on tickets/merchandise, and ultimately extort local governments to fund extravagant facilities that have a singular purpose. They run the NFL like a corporation, they should be paying for the privilege to use the local infrastructure.
They are paying. Every dollar the NFL makes filters down to the franchises. It's all taxed.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:10 pm to Zoombop
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Maybe I'm being naive, but I would prefer to never have another Super Bowl here over building a new stadium in the next 10-20 years. New Orleans without the Superdome is not dissimilar to NYC without the Empire State Building, that's how important it is to the history and image of the city. Hosting Super Bowls is great, but it's not the only thing we host down here. Not having it will not cripple the city, and it surely won't affect most of our lives. In fact, it will be helpful not having to deal with traffic.
Exactly. You have to look at how much a couple of Super Bowls will bring in compared to the cost of a new stadium. Not comparable, I don't think.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:23 pm to TigerWise
Pre-Katrina, weren't the Saints in talks with the state to get a new stadium on the riverfront?
Proposed Saints Stadium
Proposed Saints Stadium
Posted on 5/22/14 at 12:27 pm to SaintEB
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Minneapolis in Feb is not a better site for a Super Bowl than New Orleans.
The Minnesota people were proud that with the new stadium's skyway connections and underground parking, there will be no reason for anyone attending the game to go outside, you don't even have to see Minneapolis.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:18 pm to AlaTiger
quote:Agreed. Also, whether we like it or not, it is not much different than the massive tax breaks or TIFs, or similar avenues that are afforded large corporations to bring their operations to a state. It is a promise of business, jobs and economic impact by the corporation that incentivizes the states to offer these tax breaks, land offerings, etc.
Exactly. You have to look at how much a couple of Super Bowls will bring in compared to the cost of a new stadium. Not comparable, I don't think.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:25 pm to Thurber
A new stadium will not prevent New Orleans from hosting they just won't host it as much as they did in the past and I think it's more due to the NFL wanting to spread it around which is probably a good thing. New Orleans will still host again and the state is not going to build a new stadium anytime soon with all the recent renovations they've done since Katrina.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:08 pm to tigers102886
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Pre-Katrina, weren't the Saints in talks with the state to get a new stadium on the riverfront?
It was in Algiers
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:19 pm to Geauxld Finger
I'm so glad that new stadium idea failed.
It would've been a disaster.
The Superdome is our dome-field advantage!
It would've been a disaster.
The Superdome is our dome-field advantage!
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:12 pm to TigerBait1127
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Well unlike the Dome, the Georgia tent was a shithole
Posted on 5/22/14 at 6:35 pm to tigers102886
The Dome is perfect where it is now. I believe the only possible scenario would be to demolish it in place and replace it with a better stadium. It would suck all around and the state doesn't have that kind of money right now. Personally, I love the Dome and think it has at least another 10 years left before it is truly outdated. I don't like this precedent.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 7:36 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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The Minnesota people were proud that with the new stadium's skyway connections and underground parking, there will be no reason for anyone attending the game to go outside, you don't even have to see Minneapolis.
So fricking pathetic. The NFL doesn't give a shite about the fans or where would be a better place to host. They want their loan back and this is a quick way to get it.
They could've easily given Minny the SB the very next year and the stadium would still be brand new. A tricentennial is huge and shows they only care about money, not the game by passing us up.
Posted on 5/24/14 at 7:43 pm to DCBJR6
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along with the 90 or so mile difference.
It's just an hour drive.
Posted on 5/24/14 at 10:30 pm to AlaTiger
Bulldoze the convention center and move the stadium there. Have all future conventions at the Superdome. Bam.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 11:11 am to eightynine
The Superbowl has been hosted by the Superdome more than any other stadium.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:06 pm to Pectus
The problem isn't with the Dome, per se, as a venue, especially after the post-Katrina renovations. I still marvel at how modern, and at the same time classic, it looks. That's especially true at night. Any "problems" with it can be remedied without an entirely new stadium being built. The real issue is rewarding a city for devoting public dollars to a new stadium rather than the stadium itself being so superior to another site.
ETA: And I can' think of another location that would maintain the advantages that it has now with proximity to everything. I suppose on the river near the Convention Center comes close.
ETA: And I can' think of another location that would maintain the advantages that it has now with proximity to everything. I suppose on the river near the Convention Center comes close.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 2:08 pm
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