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re: Caplan libertarian test

Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:11 pm to
Glad to know you had a score

I'm actually shocked that my score of 79 is higher than so many on this board.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:13 pm to
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I'm on my way, y'all


You only scored any points at all because you want to gut DoD.

Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:15 pm to
The questions were too cut and dry. I don't want housing vouchers or government run housing.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:16 pm to
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I don't want housing vouchers or government run housing.


I believe it asked if vouchers would be better, which I tend to think they would, even if I'd prefer not to have either.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68775 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:18 pm to
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People who score a 160 are full of crap. They'd be the first looking for some sort of govt when they realize they don't have the skills to survive in their fantasy world.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:20 pm to
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People who score a 160 are full of crap. They'd be the first looking for some sort of govt when they realize they don't have the skills to survive in their fantasy world.


Because there were so many utopic, thriving "civilizations" without states, currency, banking, regulation, etc.

I'm all for making it as minimal, efficient and responsive as possible. But to pretend we don't need any government at all is fantasy, as you suggest, Jake.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:21 pm to
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People who score a 160 are full of crap. They'd be the first looking for some sort of govt when they realize they don't have the skills to survive in their fantasy world.


You're totally right. I actually love government, I just pretend that I don't. frick markets!

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Because there were so many utopic, thriving "civilizations" without states, currency, banking, regulation, etc.


With the exception of states, none of these would be absent in an ancap society.
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112807 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:25 pm to
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If you got a 130 you are no longer a Libertarian. You are an Anarchist.


No, 130 is the border line between the two.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68775 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:25 pm to
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You're totally right. I actually love government, I just pretend that I don't. frick markets!


Your response is thoughtless foolishness as is your scoring a 160.

I'm sure privatization of the police and courts is a great idea and would be a huge improvement.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Your response is thoughtless foolishness as is your scoring a 160.


It's just as foolish as your remark that those with my disposition would be the first to seek government help.

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I'm sure privatization of the police and courts is a great idea and would be a huge improvement.


I am pretty sure of this. Markets work for everything else, I'm not sure why everyone thinks a monopoly suddenly works for certain services.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:28 pm to
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my 188 IQ.




Doubt it if you will, but I took several secret IQ tests when I was a military brat, and when I went to college, several of my professors realized I was more qualified to teach the courses than they were.

I miss otto.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:33 pm to
You have to live in a dorm room if you answered yes to any of that last section.

Privatize courts? Privatize the law? Disband military? Vigilante justice? Sweet Jesus!

I don't even know what to say about that. Mindless idiocy.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Privatize courts? Privatize the law? Disband military? Vigilante justice? Sweet Jesus!

I don't even know what to say about that. Mindless idiocy.



The vigilante justice is the only one I would find questionable.

There is plenty of literature (made by old Jews and not college-goers) on why privatization of government monopolies would be preferable.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:36 pm to
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They'd be the first looking for some sort of govt when they realize they don't have the skills to survive in their fantasy world.


It's interesting that people (making 160s) live in THE most successful state on earth...perhaps in the history of the world. Fantasy land, indeed.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:38 pm to
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It's interesting that people (making 160s) live in THE most successful state on earth...perhaps in the history of the world. Fantasy land, indeed.



I do not see any incongruency. I attribute our standard of living and success to the history of mostly free markets, not to any kind of state benevolence.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79555 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:40 pm to
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The questions were too cut and dry. I don't want housing vouchers or government run housing.



Also, federalism/local rule is blurred with references to zoning and rent control and such.

Posted by a want
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:41 pm to
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The vigilante justice is the only one I would find questionable.

There is plenty of literature (made by old Jews and not college-goers) on why privatization of government monopolies would be preferable.

Who cares. There's literature on all sorts of shite. Most of us live in the real world.

Privatize the law? Courts? I can't imaging anything going wrong there.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Privatize courts?


If the courts are perceived as being run by ideologues, maybe privitizing them might make them more accountable than they seem at the moment. Just playing devil's advocate.

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Privatize the law? Vigilante justice?

If the Prez and his AG won't enforce the laws passed by Congress, what's another alternative?

Obama and Holder are crossing the Rubicon.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55559 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:47 pm to
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Who cares. There's literature on all sorts of shite. Most of us live in the real world.

Privatize the law? Courts? I can't imaging anything going wrong there.


I can imagine plenty going wrong. But with a monopoly, it's guaranteed.

I'm not going to change anyone's mind on here - I know this. I'm fine being labeled crazy, kooky, out-of-touch, etc.,

I don't think that my political disposition will ever be widely held - at least not by proselytization. I'm more concerned with creating/supporting services that undermine government, and when it becomes more efficient and cheaper to use a private service, then I won't have to piss in the wind anymore.

ETA: Just in case you're feeling adventurous, watch this video The Machinery of Freedom
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:48 pm to
I admire your spirit. I really do. I firmly believe we have too much government in this country. But I also think libertarians (generally) go a bit overboard.

I think if you spent time here, you might grade out a little differently.
Libertarian Paradise
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 12:50 pm
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