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Alcoholism: Why it sucks.

Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:39 am
Posted by FT
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:39 am
I keep beating it and losing. The best way to describe it to people who aren't alcoholics is this: Do you ever just crave a food and feel like no other food will do? That's essentially what we feel, but we're willing to risk everything to get it. We ignore the possibility of seizures, nausea and other issues we might face by deciding not to. Either way, we put ourselves and those that care about us in jeopardy. We desperately crave alcohol. Beyond the risks to ourselves, we risk the lives of others by driving drunk to wherever alcohol is. Luckily and unluckily for me, my mother died driving drunk when I was young. I've never driven drunk. I've wanted to and never have.

The craving is either so intense that nothing in the world can stop you, or so crippling that you give up on everything. I'm a little different. I only rarely crave alcohol, but no matter the setting, if I have one drink I'll keep going until I'm almost passed out. The other night I drank almost two fifths of whiskey. The hangover was a bitch, but here I am, again, after another innocuous get together, drunk as hell and wondering why.

I know I can do better. I'm not weak. Just today I turned down a job offer that didn't make sense to me (pay, hours, the lack of experience of other people being brought on). That's not something random. Most of the time, I'm perfectly capable of making good decisions and doing the right thing. This is a different sort of thing. It's not as simple as being a genius or a dullard. It's about being controlled by a substance. Don't misunderstand me. We're people; we operate normally a huge amount of the time. At least functional alcoholics do. But we fall down constantly, and the reasons are obvious. You can't have a major desire to be drunk and still succeed.

If you're in that boat or feel like you might be, here's a good go between between AA and keeping it to yourself.

I have a problem. Luckily I have the support of friends and family and my situation isn't that dire. But I'm constantly aware that it could be, and to those of us who plan on having a future, that's unacceptable.

I try to keep things light here, but this site is too special and full of good people to not share insight.

If you need help, call your local AA group. If you don't want to do that, contact me. Anyone who's serious about quitting, know that I'm not perfect and I'm only a short way into recovery, but talking to someone who's also struggling may be what you need.

Let's fix this, or die trying. The alternative is dying without trying. I know what I'd rather do.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83985 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:44 am to
Did you believe in God before AA?
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13475 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 1:53 am to
quote:

if I have one drink I'll keep going until I'm almost passed out.


you wish you could quit drinking all together or be able to stop when you start?
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24115 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:15 am to
You're a brave man FT
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29453 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:17 am to
Good for you FT. I've got an superintendent that's a good buddy that's 12 years sober. We've talked about it a bunch of times and his perspective on life is pretty amazing. He's an older guy now, and AA has been a huge part of his life and will likely continue to be so. Keep fighting and best of luck to you.

And Sabi, shame on you.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:18 am to
Interesting perspective.

I find that I do get fairly regular cravings for alcohol (especially beer) but that I rarely have the desire to keep going after several rounds. I only get "drunk" a couple times a year, usually on gamedays or special occasions like July 4th. Its been a good two years or so since Ive been drunk just for the hell of it.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 2:50 am to
quote:

If you need help, call your local AA group. If you don't want to do that, contact me.


It sounds like YOU need help. You can't help anyone until you help yourself.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203738 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 5:22 am to
quote:

If you don't want to do that, contact me. Anyone who's serious about quitting, know that I'm not perfect and I'm only a short way into recovery,


No offense, But this would be a mistake for anyone to do... With you being so soon in trying to solve YOUR problems, I would think you are not qualified enough to help anyone else...


Goodluck.......
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 5:47 am to
Maybe it's just too early but I'm confused. Are you sober or are you saying that you keep falling off the wagon?
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28549 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:12 am to
Bruh, don't drink it's easy.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:26 am to
I'm usually pretty careful not to shite on AA too much in these threads, I think it's counter-productive. But here's an interesting book on how to treat alcoholism as a psychological condition (instead of a spiritual problem). Unfortunately, the author does shite on AA a lot, but if you can get past that part it's a good read.

LINK
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11826 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:31 am to
Go to a meeting, open your ears, and not your mouth,

we make all kinds of excuses why we drink, because of this, because of that, we drink, because we're drunks nothing else,

The old timers didn't sugar coat anything when I got sober,

It's easy, but not simple, don't drink, go to meetings, and talk to some old timers

Oh I forgot I've been sober 30 years, It's worked for me
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 6:41 am to
One factor working against you is how cool the media and everyone else portrays drinking alcohol - and alcoholism, for that matter - to be. It's not that cool. Especially when you're at the point of addiction. It's not cool at all. It's misery. But the media never - or, at least, very rarely - portrays it that way. . . And by media, I mean TV, movies, commercials, etc.

I can somewhat appreciate your struggle. I have a friend and a family member with alcoholism.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 7:24 am
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150918 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:29 am to
quote:

Alcoholism: Why it sucks.

It's fricking awful. I've dealt with it both in my family and in a relationship. It's such a terrible, terrible thing.

Good luck, man.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:37 am to
quote:

FT


Good luck man. My vice was heroin, oxycontin, and MDMA to a lesser extent. Haven't touched any of it in 3 years. It's tough to kick drugs/alcohol but it makes you a stronger person
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 7:40 am
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32782 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:49 am to
The crazy thing about addiction is nobody considers themselves an addict until they have a major problem. I think it's mostly because all the stuff you learned growing up made addiction sound way more extreme than it really is. You don't necessarily have to be waking up shaking and vomiting until you get your fix to be an addict. People think if they're not physically addicted then they're not addicted. Becoming completely physically addicted to drugs or alcohol isn't something that happens quickly and it is NOT an early sign of addiction. You have gone wayyyy off in the deep end at that point.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
6440 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:51 am to
Have you ever heard of disulfiram?

It's a med for alcoholism. Check it out.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20043 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 7:52 am to
Stay strong man, and its a good thing that you can control the urge to drive
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32782 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:01 am to
Has anyone ever met someone who is literally addicted to everything? I have a buddy who goes to excess with every substance he ever touches. He eradicated an addiction to opiates and was a chain smoker for like a year when he was trying to stay off. Then he got on benzos and became a full blown addict. I know he's a sex addict too. He'll do anything to catch a buzz of any kind. He's literally the most talented person I've ever met and if given no other options you could probably get him to huff gasoline. It's tragic. I don't think he could ever defeat that way of thinking without some sort of religious experience.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 8:03 am
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 8:13 am to
AA really is a great program if you want to quit
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