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re: I'm Getting Concerned About The Draft

Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
34145 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:30 pm to
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because I'm drawing a blank)?

John Jenkins?


Kenny Stills looked good at times. I think he could have a nice future here.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:31 pm to
Kenny Stills obviously.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18135 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:31 pm to
Rest easy my child, armchair GMs on a message board have no sway in the war room.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
119757 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:32 pm to
Also, Armstead started a playoff game and is the starter at LT going into the season.

We had a good draft last year.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:32 pm to
Vaccaro, Armstead, Jenkins, and Stills all stood out, and that was without a 2nd and 4th round pick.

Last year's draft could go down as one of our best ever.
Posted by The 25 Jersey
Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2007
1345 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:34 pm to
Here's what I do before a draft. I come up with a list of the top x players, with x being the pick number we have in the first round. Then I subtract the number of players that we won't pick that will be drafted before our pick. For this draft, I subtracted 2 QBs and 2 Safeties, which leaves us with 23.

Off the top of my head, here's my top 23:
Jadeveon Clowney
Khalil Mack
Greg Robinson
Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Jake Matthews
Taylor Lewan
Aaron Donald
Eric Ebron
Darqueze Dennard
Brandin Cooks
Odell Beckham Jr.
C.J. Mosley
Anthony Barr
Marqise Lee
Kyle Fuller
Jason Verrett
Justin Gilbert
Zack Martin
Ryan Shazier
Jeremiah Attaochu
Kony Ealy
Dee Ford

These players can be substituted in this list as well:
Cody Latimer
Stephon Tuitt
Bradley Roby
Morgan Moses
Louis Nix III
Ra'shede Hageman
Xavier Su'a-Filo

There are guys that will be available to us at 27 that will be very good in this league. We'll be fine.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29114 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:36 pm to
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First of all, fans overrate the shite out of the draft

We really do. I just love watching it and always want more picks when in reality more picks does not equate to better players.

Better to grab two impact players than 6 players, the majority possibly gone in 3-4 years.

quote:

the Saints certainly CAN afford to give up draft picks to move around

Yep. We did a great job in free aganecy and are a pretty deep team. Just need to add some pieces and 2014 is shaping up to be a special year.



Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27375 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:36 pm to
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First of all, it's OBJ. ODB is a dead rapper.


It shouldn't have taken this long for someone to call me on this.
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:38 pm to
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I don't even care about the draft anymore. Way burnt out. Not even kidding.
Yeah frick the future of the franchise, I don't have the patience to wait an extra 2 weeks to care.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6225 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:41 pm to
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I don't think the Saints can afford to lose picks to trade up

Talented team with depth at many positions, if we move up for "our" guy then we can afford to.



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I'm not excited about the guys projected to be available for us at 27.

Projections don't mean shite. There will likely be quite a bit of maneuvering in this draft,(i'm thinking especially near the end of round 1), due to the QBs not being highly rated enough to be picked early and teams not wanting to wait till the second round and possibly miss out.


I have a feeling the Saints will make a move and not end up with the 27th pick. Whether that be moving up or trading back, I don't know.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 4:50 pm to
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Yeah frick the future of the franchise, I don't have the patience to wait an extra 2 weeks to care.


Not buying the hype and bullshite anymore. Moving it back was a BAD idea. Johnny Football's up. Johnny Football's down. Johnny Football met with this team. Johnny Football met with that team. Johnny Football might be a Cowboy. Johnny Football might be a Saint.

frick Johnny Football and frick the NFL Draft Hype Machine.

Wake me up when the Saints pick--like last year when everybody lost their shite because they didn't pick Jarvis Jones.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17453 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

I don't even care about the draft anymore. Way burnt out. Not even kidding


agreed.

i will get excited again thursday night
Posted by charlieg14
Member since Mar 2006
3076 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:48 pm to
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I come to the Saints Talk board admitting that I am not extremely knowledgable on this years' draft, and despite admitting that I'm sure I will catch some hell.


As a longtime member of this board, I ask this pertinent question. " Are you seriously asking for intelligent answers from members of this board ?"
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
38788 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:12 pm to
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First of all, fans overrate the shite out of the draft.

Most of these guys are going to be busts
Exactly.

The draft is for NFL GMs to shite the bed more often than not and to give hardcore NFL fans something to watch. No one knows what these players careers will end up being as. If the NFL GMs don't know, no one knows.
Posted by Isaid
Member since Nov 2011
743 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:20 pm to
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The truth is the Saints don't have that many holes. If they can get 2-3 of the better players in the draft, it is a success.


True we don't have many holes, but we do have upcoming contracts that we can't afford and some age on our roster than needs replacing and what better way to do that than in "the deepest draft in years."
Posted by MannyG
Member since Sep 2009
357 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:27 pm to
#27 appears to be a tough spot unless somebody drops to us. I can see the Saints trading up to get atop WR or CB or trading back into the 2nd round & using that pick on Marcus Martin.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:53 pm to
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The truth is the Saints don't have that many holes. If they can get 2-3 of the better players in the draft, it is a success.


I agree there aren't that many spots open. The problem is that it looks like the QBs won't be coming off the board early and that will eat up CBs and WRs before #27. I don't think there will be too many teams wanting to drop to our spot without a ton of picks in the mix (the trade charts may not be a good barometer of what it will take to make a trade up in our case).

Bill Polian was on the NFL radio channel just a few minutes ago and said it's tough moving up in a draft when you're towards the bottom...unless you want to give up "a bunch of picks". He's convinced that a starting WR can be found in 2nd round; he's not sure the same could be said about CB.

Last point, Polian thinks Mosley will go in the first 12 picks..."only 3 down ILB in the draft".
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
38788 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:56 pm to
I used to think Polian was an NFL genius. I'm almost 180 on that now.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 9:57 pm
Posted by TigersforEver
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1930 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:02 pm to
I'm with Matt Moscona - I'd be ecstatic if we got Lee.

Verret or Shazier - couldn't complain

Moseley would be tough to stomach because of, well, you know
Posted by Isaid
Member since Nov 2011
743 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 10:22 pm to
Lee
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