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Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:50 am to LNCHBOX
quote:I wonder where you'd draw the line on what you're ok with the cop doing to that guy in that situation.
Well the cop was minding his own business until douche bag showed up. The cop wasn't out looking for someone to harass. I give the cop a pass. Now if this had happened to a completely random person, I'd feel differently. When you go out looking for shite, don't be surprised when you find it.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:52 am to ApexTiger
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Failure to answer the question "why are you following us around , you have circled 5 times?"
I'd say you need to be able to answer that question...honestly versus a follow up questions like "What have we done wrong?" Otherwise you are just "Bringing trouble on yourself".
The officer showed respect and the punk showed no respect.. and that my friends is how the law will be "enforced".
This is a typical video of a punk intentionally trying to entice an officer of law , records it and then places the video on the internet for giggles. I really have no tolerance for that kind of citizenship.
Cops are supposed enforce the law. What LAW was being broken here?
The cop did not like what the kid was doing, that does not make it illegal. What was illegal was the illegal stop by the cop.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:54 am to LNCHBOX
Amazing the cop was able to leave his "crime scene" to go stop a car driving around.
I do NOT like the idea of anyone interfering with police duties. I also don't line cops overstepping their power and creating shite when no laws were broken. Didn't you hear the part where the cop threatened him with obstruction if he did it again? Which is it? Is it fricking obstruction or not? If it were, I think we can all agree this cop would have arrested this punk. But he didn't cause no laws were broken. But the cop threatened to make a charge up if the punk did it again. That is typical behavior of a control freak who feels he has lost control. Notice how then he resorts to violent threats and intimidation tactics.
So you tell me, what would happen to you if you did that to a cop, screaming threats, approaching him, making contact?
So why dies this cop think he has more individual rights than the punk?
Simple answer is THE cop is THE ONLY one who did anything illegal in this situation.
I do NOT like the idea of anyone interfering with police duties. I also don't line cops overstepping their power and creating shite when no laws were broken. Didn't you hear the part where the cop threatened him with obstruction if he did it again? Which is it? Is it fricking obstruction or not? If it were, I think we can all agree this cop would have arrested this punk. But he didn't cause no laws were broken. But the cop threatened to make a charge up if the punk did it again. That is typical behavior of a control freak who feels he has lost control. Notice how then he resorts to violent threats and intimidation tactics.
So you tell me, what would happen to you if you did that to a cop, screaming threats, approaching him, making contact?
So why dies this cop think he has more individual rights than the punk?
Simple answer is THE cop is THE ONLY one who did anything illegal in this situation.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:59 am to GeeOH
Circling a crime scene five times is suspicious behavior. I'm all for the kid being stopped to figure out why he's doing so. As soon as the police officer realized it was a kid being a douche then he should have asked him to be on his way and to please not circle around again.
We would all be crucifying the cop if he didn't stop the vehicle and the vehicle ended up having the murderer/rapist/arsonist in it.
We would all be crucifying the cop if he didn't stop the vehicle and the vehicle ended up having the murderer/rapist/arsonist in it.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 8:59 am to shel311
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I wonder where you'd draw the line on what you're ok with the cop doing to that guy in that situation.
I would draw the line farther than raising his voice and getting agitated.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:01 am to DeathValley85
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Circling a crime scene five times is suspicious behavior. I'm all for the kid being stopped to figure out why he's doing so. As soon as the police officer realized it was a kid being a douche then he should have asked him to be on his way and to please not circle around again.
That would have been the best course of action in my opinion. I would have told him to leave the area and not asked for his identification but this is, of course, me commenting from the peanut gallery.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:02 am to GeeOH
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Amazing the cop was able to leave his "crime scene" to go stop a car driving around.
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I do NOT like the idea of anyone interfering with police duties
That's not what you said in your last post.
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Didn't you hear the part where the cop threatened him with obstruction if he did it again? Which is it? Is it fricking obstruction or not?
I don't know about you, but I have no problem when a cop pulls me over and just gives me a warning.
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So you tell me, what would happen to you if you did that to a cop, screaming threats, approaching him, making contact?
I have no clue, because my idea of a fun night doesn't involving baiting cops with a video camera.
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Simple answer is THE cop is THE ONLY one who did anything illegal in this situation.
He actually did nothing illegal. Did he assault the douche bag? No. Did he arrest him? No. What law was broken?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:03 am to LNCHBOX
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He actually did nothing illegal. Did he assault the douche bag? No. Did he arrest him? No. What law was broken?
Throw anything at a police officer and see what happens.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:04 am to Golfer
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Throw anything at a police officer and see what happens.
I'm good, I don't go looking for shite from cops.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:06 am to LNCHBOX
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I'm good, I don't go looking for shite from cops.
Is that what I said?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:06 am to Golfer
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Is that what I said?
No, but I see where you're going. Does anything include a balled up piece of paper?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:07 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Like I said, I wonder where you would draw the line.
I would draw the line farther than raising his voice and getting agitated.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:07 am to DeathValley85
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Circling a crime scene five times is suspicious behavior. I'm all for the kid being stopped to figure out why he's doing so. As soon as the police officer realized it was a kid being a douche then he should have asked him to be on his way and to please not circle around again.
This is ABSOLUTELY the correct legal and smart answer. The officer had Reasonable Suspicion based on articulable facts to make the stop. (We can argue this ad nauseum but I would wager a court would support this given the 5 drive bys.) BUT he has to continue to build evidence in order to either further detain or move the stop into a search. The fact is that as soon as he recognized this guy as a known local police agitator he lost all of that and should have let the guy leave. IF he hadn't known the guy, then he would have been justified in detaining him further as part of his investigation. The fact that the agitator is a known entity actually gives him protection. Not the other way around like some people think.
Pissing Off the Police is NOT a crime. Especially not when you are being videotaped.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:08 am to LNCHBOX
quote:So you would be 100% ok with a person acting like that to a cop when a cop is questioning him?
He actually did nothing illegal. Did he assault the douche bag? No. Did he arrest him? No. What law was broken?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:08 am to Golfer
quote:His last 3 posts are just full of deflecting and dodging his inconsistencies.
Is that what I said?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:10 am to shel311
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So you would be 100% ok with a person acting like that to a cop when a cop is questioning him?
A person can act however they want to a cop. They should also be ready for the consequences of their actions.
Douchebag went looking for shite with his camera, and he found it. This wasn't some random situation. It wouldn't bother me in the least if he got fined for wasting people's time.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:10 am to jbgleason
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he should have asked him to be on his way and to please not circle around again.
I think it's pretty obvious that this kid was not going to listen to this.
I am sure this certified paralegal douche bag would then waste more of the officer's time by asking why and continue to be a hassle.
When that cop lost his cool, he called that kid exactly what he was being.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:10 am to shel311
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His last 3 posts are just full of deflecting and dodging his inconsistencies.
Yea, I've dodged a whole lot.Posted on 4/15/14 at 9:13 am to Tactical1
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I think it's pretty obvious that this kid was not going to listen to this.
I am sure this certified paralegal douche bag would then waste more of the officer's time by asking why and continue to be a hassle.
At that point he would be arrested for interfering with a law enforcement investigation.
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