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re: Powerful forces all lining up to stop St. George
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:45 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:45 pm to LSURussian
quote:
So Costco is part of the "powerful forces" lining up to stop St George???
No Costco is a large retailer new to BR lining up with the people in EBR who helped them get a huge tax break.
If it was important for them to be in the city, then they would have bought property inside the city. They didn't.
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:51 pm to doubleb
quote:You really don't get it, do you?
No Costco is a large retailer new to BR lining up with the people in EBR who helped them get a huge tax break.
Costco was, in effect, reimbursed for the infrastructure improvements they needed to build such as the roads around their new location plus for the cost of tearing down the old Coca-Cola building. For that one-time tax reimbursement, Costco will provide 250 new, permanent jobs.
quote:And you're an expert on all the prices of all the property which Costco could have bought and you know for a fact that there was property within the city limits acceptable to Costco? Wow, you're pretty damn smart!
If it was important for them to be in the city, then they would have bought property inside the city. They didn't.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:02 pm to LSURussian
LOL
Costco is slated to open any time now.
If it was so important to be in the city don't you think they'd have petitioned the city to do it when they first bought the property?
But who cares? Like I said, I'm for letting everyone choose. Let Westminister, Jefferson Terrace, Sheanandoah, Hickory Ridge, Gardere, Lake and White Oak all in the city if they want to be in.
If they want to be in their own city, let them vote for that.
I'm not trying to shove anything down people's throats. I'm for letting people vote.
Costco is slated to open any time now.
If it was so important to be in the city don't you think they'd have petitioned the city to do it when they first bought the property?
But who cares? Like I said, I'm for letting everyone choose. Let Westminister, Jefferson Terrace, Sheanandoah, Hickory Ridge, Gardere, Lake and White Oak all in the city if they want to be in.
If they want to be in their own city, let them vote for that.
I'm not trying to shove anything down people's throats. I'm for letting people vote.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:25 pm to doubleb
quote:Why would they? Before this SG mess there was no reason for them to make a distinction between the city and parish.
If it was so important to be in the city don't you think they'd have petitioned the city to do it when they first bought the property?
This is a perfect example of how the SG incorporation would divide the parish into "us" versus "them" just like I've been saying it would.
quote:We'll see if you feel that same way when the merchants in the Mall of La, Perkins Rowe and possibly Siegen Marketplace ask to be annexed into BR thereby cutting SG's tax revenues in half. That will effectively kill St George from happening.
I'm not trying to shove anything down people's throats.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 2:36 pm to LSURussian
quote:
We'll see if you feel that same way when the merchants in the Mall of La, Perkins Rowe and possibly Siegen Marketplace ask to be annexed into BR thereby cutting SG's tax revenues in half. That will effectively kill St George from happening
Sure I'd still feel the same way.
But from what you are saying BR only accepts businesses, they really don't want people.
Maybe they can cherry pick their way down airline Hwy. and get the Womans Hospital and all the car dealerships too.
We shall see.
The big thing to realize is people vote, businesses do not.
I'm for letting people vote.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:00 pm to doubleb
quote:The people who own businesss do vote.
people vote, businesses do not.
ETA: and they make big campaign contributions.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:28 pm to LSURussian
quote:
We'll see if you feel that same way when the merchants in the Mall of La, Perkins Rowe and possibly Siegen Marketplace ask to be annexed into BR thereby cutting SG's tax revenues in half. That will effectively kill St George from happening.
Funny you should say this. Just read a tweet saying the Mall of La will be asking to be annexed as well soon. Not confirmed yet.
ETA:
quote:
@rebekahallen: Cncilman Ryan Heck: Mall of La to petition for annexation into BR soon, striking major blow to @StGeorgeINC . Mayor's Office won't confirm.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 6:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Just read a tweet saying the Mall of La will be asking to be annexed as well soon.
If true, it's over, SG is done.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:33 pm to LSURussian
Nola.com is now saying BR General and the Mall of Louisiana are in talks with the city about annexing.
SG is done. It's over.
SG is done. It's over.
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:42 pm to urinetrouble
Why? Seems like a good deal for both sides if this happens. Those opposing St. George don't give a damn about education and just want some St. George money to squander on failing schools and unions, which they would get from the mall and hospital taxes. St. George supporters, of which I am one, would get good public schools and local government. Taxes would be higher in St. G but would be offset by a better quality of life, higher property values, and savings on tuition. I'm in.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:47 pm to tdg
I guess it's not important that the proposed SG budget showing $60 million in expenditures would not be impacted by losing $38 million in sales taxes.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:00 pm to LSURussian
If they get Mall of Louisiana, would it provide a path to Perkins Rowe?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:06 pm to tdg
I'm listening
It's obvious the status quo is not a good option.
It's obvious the status quo is not a good option.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:13 pm to LSURussian
I'd make that deal in a heartbeat. Increase in property values alone would offset that. Just talk of st George is driving up home values. Plus I pay thousands in private school tuition. And on top of that, businesses would migrate to st George and increase tax revenue and I value local gov't. Would you stop opposing st George if BR got mall and hospital money?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:22 pm to tdg
If SG forms its own ISD there will be a housing boom
We'd benefit and so would BR retail etc.
The dummies fighting the ISD can't see that?
We'd benefit and so would BR retail etc.
The dummies fighting the ISD can't see that?
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:43 pm to doubleb
Absolutely. Just look at all the people that sit in 10 miles of traffic everyday to get ascension schools. Businesses go where the consumers are so st George will have plenty of tax revenue long term. Give BR the mall tax money to stop complaining and let st George residents govern themselves.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 8:53 pm to tdg
All we really need is our own ISD
Posted on 4/17/14 at 9:53 pm to doubleb
Malls have a lifespan. While the current events are certainly interesting, the MOLA was never viably a long term revenue source IMHO. Its like Chris Rock said...."every city has two malls" . Ascension or Livingston or St.George will build a new mall eventually, and MOLA will be reduced to selling sneakers and baby clothes.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:12 am to Sprocket46
Cortana Mall was the primary shopping center in Baton Rouge for almost 30 years.
The Mall of Louisiana is 20 years old now but a large addition of it is relatively new. It's a prime location that is still a growing and thriving area.
I don't see it falling to the waste side anytime soon.
The Mall of Louisiana is 20 years old now but a large addition of it is relatively new. It's a prime location that is still a growing and thriving area.
I don't see it falling to the waste side anytime soon.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 12:45 am to DR Hops
quote:
You really don't think Nevers petition restrictions have anything to do with St. George? If not, you are either naive or stupid.
Nevers proposal was to simply limit St. George's efforts to get signees to the petition. Now whether or not they can get those signatures in the now instituted time frame of 18 months is another issue. Nevers is your typical big government Democrat. The fact that he brought this up, simply means that someone is greasing his palm. Why else would a democrat propose legislation that doesn't affect his area and then have the restrictions further tightened by another Democrat in Dorsey?
The simple fact is this is Democrats being Democrats. Wanting to limit the power and choice of the citizens.
And as someone else said, if St. George is just some small time threat, why go through all this to set a timetable.
To be fair, I don't think Nevers introduced his bill just because of St. George, if at all.
I have a strong feeling this was introduced because of the rash of small towns and villages in this state that are beginning to fall into fiscal administration due to insufficient revenues (many never should have incorporated in the first place).
Nevers sits on the Legislative Audit Advisory Council and has a front row seat on the recent discussions about these financially failing municipalities.
The State (which is already operating on a strained budget) could potentially be on the hook for all or part of the debts of these failing municipalities if they end up completely insolvent.
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