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re: 9 reasons why public educ fails

Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67144 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:15 pm to
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This is definitely true. If you want to know how just read up on the processes they're teaching to solve simple addition/subtraction problems. It's much more complicated with tons more steps. The answer isn't even important anymore, just the process. It's absolute shite.


So what are they indoctrinating them to think? That i should know what i am doing?

If you learn how to use a calculator well enough you can do pretty much all math through high school without really knowing what is going on. that isn't learning math, the process is more important than the answer, because the process applies to all problems. Still if you don't get the right answer than the process isn't right.

Regardless that isn't indoctrination of some ideal. Other than it is good to know what the frick you are doing.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112667 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:22 pm to
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So what are they indoctrinating them to think?


It's not indoctrination. It's all about money and 'reform' and 'closing the gap' and 'equality.'

I could write 500 pages on this but I don't think anyone wants to read it. So, I shall use the short story.

It goes like this...

1. Some kids succeed and some don't.
2. District calls in a consultant and pays him a shite load of money.
3. Consultant's ideas are implemented in the district with a catchy name like "Everyone is a STAR"
4. Teachers go through expensive training to learn the STAR system.
5. After 3 years there is no change in achievement levels. STAR is deemed a failure.
6. District goes to another consultant. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. It's been going on for 60 years.

It's all about the money.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124365 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:46 pm to
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Regardless that isn't indoctrination of some ideal.
The problem with Common Core is it's emphases enable anything but common material in local implementation. Expanding the conversation to Social Sciences for example, CC's focus on method rather than correct answer invites local incorporation of fringe partisan teaching materials under auspices of varying perspective. \

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