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The threat from ULL to LSU (long)
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:12 am
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:12 am
By state law, ULL is required to call themselves "The University of Louisiana at Lafayette". We all know that they wish to be called "The University of Louisiana".
At the moment, LSU is by far the preeminent athletic program in a state of 4,601,893 people. In terms of history, in terms of facilities, in terms of overall budget. That's not likely to change anytime soon.
Other schools in the state field better teams in some sports from time to time. This year, ULL baseball has beaten LSU head-to-head and has a better overall record. And in addition has been ranked number one in the country by one poll. La. Tech had as good as, if not better of a basketball team as LSU. ULL also has the best softball team in the state.
All of us Tiger fans are excited about the SEZ addition and what it means to LSU 's bottom line. LSU was the 4th -most valuable team in the nation last year, according to Forbes...
Forbes
..and that was with a stadium that sat 92,542. In 2014, LSU will break records for both revenue and profit, due to the new seating being mostly premium seating in a stadium seating 101,000.
ULL is not sitting still, however. They have a master plan in place to upgrade nearly all their athletic facilities: SPORTS FACILITIES - CONCEPTUAL BUDGET
The Cajuns' five phase plan is to expand Cajun Field by doubling the capacity to 62,304, and M.L. “Tigue” Moore field to over 10,000.
In short, ULL is trying very hard to become to LSU what Louisville is to Kentucky, or UCF to Florida. An in-state rival school enjoying unprecedented success, and siphoning away support from the SEC school in each state.
For those of you scoffing at the notion, cast your minds back to when Texas A&M was joining the SEC. Baylor held up that process with threats of legal action. And look at Baylor's athletic program now.
It's not out of the question that with these athletic upgrades, ULL could find itself invited to join the Big 12 one day.
Short term, LSU dominates the states' hearts and minds and will continue to do so. The LSU athletic department has shown it's willing to spend the money necessary to build and maintain some of the best facilities anywhere in the country.
Long term, however, the huge gap in terms of facilities between LSU and other in-state schools that exists today will most likely not exist tomorrow.
The silver lining in all this, is that the way this state is booming economically, our population is likely to increase a good bit. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and predict that within ten years, Louisiana's population will eclipse 6,000,000.
TL:DR version...don't sleep on ULL.
At the moment, LSU is by far the preeminent athletic program in a state of 4,601,893 people. In terms of history, in terms of facilities, in terms of overall budget. That's not likely to change anytime soon.
Other schools in the state field better teams in some sports from time to time. This year, ULL baseball has beaten LSU head-to-head and has a better overall record. And in addition has been ranked number one in the country by one poll. La. Tech had as good as, if not better of a basketball team as LSU. ULL also has the best softball team in the state.
All of us Tiger fans are excited about the SEZ addition and what it means to LSU 's bottom line. LSU was the 4th -most valuable team in the nation last year, according to Forbes...
quote:
4. LSU Tigers
Team value: $105 million
Revenue: $74 million
Profit: $48 million
Forbes
..and that was with a stadium that sat 92,542. In 2014, LSU will break records for both revenue and profit, due to the new seating being mostly premium seating in a stadium seating 101,000.
ULL is not sitting still, however. They have a master plan in place to upgrade nearly all their athletic facilities: SPORTS FACILITIES - CONCEPTUAL BUDGET
The Cajuns' five phase plan is to expand Cajun Field by doubling the capacity to 62,304, and M.L. “Tigue” Moore field to over 10,000.
In short, ULL is trying very hard to become to LSU what Louisville is to Kentucky, or UCF to Florida. An in-state rival school enjoying unprecedented success, and siphoning away support from the SEC school in each state.
For those of you scoffing at the notion, cast your minds back to when Texas A&M was joining the SEC. Baylor held up that process with threats of legal action. And look at Baylor's athletic program now.
It's not out of the question that with these athletic upgrades, ULL could find itself invited to join the Big 12 one day.
Short term, LSU dominates the states' hearts and minds and will continue to do so. The LSU athletic department has shown it's willing to spend the money necessary to build and maintain some of the best facilities anywhere in the country.
Long term, however, the huge gap in terms of facilities between LSU and other in-state schools that exists today will most likely not exist tomorrow.
The silver lining in all this, is that the way this state is booming economically, our population is likely to increase a good bit. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and predict that within ten years, Louisiana's population will eclipse 6,000,000.
TL:DR version...don't sleep on ULL.
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 10:00 am
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:24 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Blow me.
GEAUX TIGERS!
GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:27 am to TigersOfGeauxld
quote:
TL:DR version...don't sleep on ULL.
Are you on drugs? Did you really spend all that time trying to say USL could actually compete with LSU?
They are not a threat!
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:36 am to TigersOfGeauxld
I can't believe I'm seeing this
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:54 am to TigersOfGeauxld
ULL would love to do this. I don't think they have the support or resources. Lafayette is not Louisville. As long as LSU takes care of business we'll be fine.
For that matter, college athletics as we know it may not exist in ten years. Nothing lasts forever, enjoy it while you can.
For that matter, college athletics as we know it may not exist in ten years. Nothing lasts forever, enjoy it while you can.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 5:56 am to TigersOfGeauxld
I agree with you , it wasn't long ago that Texas tech , Louisville , and SOuth Florida were nobodies as far as athletics go ....
and I hope they do step up their game , good for them ....
that said they will never be on the same level as lsu in this state......just like Texas tech will never be on the same level as Texas , at least not in the next 100 years or so ....
and I hope they do step up their game , good for them ....
that said they will never be on the same level as lsu in this state......just like Texas tech will never be on the same level as Texas , at least not in the next 100 years or so ....
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:14 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Good luck ULL. Become as great as you can.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:53 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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The threat from ULL to LSU
Stopped reading right here
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:53 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Why did the SEC take Texas A&M instead of Stephen F Auston? SFA just went 33-3 in basketball. Heck, texas Southern would have been a better pick. They won the SWAC tournament and made the NCAA tournament.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 6:58 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Solid post, the Baylor/Louisivile/UCF examples are on point. I think it is a good thing to have a growing in-state competitor. Rising tide raises all ships.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:19 am to TigersOfGeauxld
ULL Baseball Schedule
Calm down.
Also, what would you say are the top 5 wins (all sports)in ULL history? Might wanna give a year with that accomplishment too if you manage to come up with 5.
New Orleans Bowl championships and a 5 inning win against LSU will not set the table for future athletic upgrades to the point of making national noise.
They want to expand their football stadium to 62k? Why?
Can they fill the seats they have now?
Calm down.
Also, what would you say are the top 5 wins (all sports)in ULL history? Might wanna give a year with that accomplishment too if you manage to come up with 5.
New Orleans Bowl championships and a 5 inning win against LSU will not set the table for future athletic upgrades to the point of making national noise.
They want to expand their football stadium to 62k? Why?
Can they fill the seats they have now?
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 7:22 am
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:27 am to TigersOfGeauxld
You are exactly why I hate the rant.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:28 am to TigersOfGeauxld
mark Hudspeth is doing wonders at ull.
don't kid yourself into thinking that ull fans think that we will be as good in football as the tigers in our lifetime. none of us think that. some may say it just to frick with you though.
tailgating at ull is awesome. it's more like a festival atmosphere.
they serve alcohol in the stadiums so that makes it pretty fricking cool. especially at a baseball game. on a beautiful day, there's nothing like going drink beer and relax at a bball game. especially when we are #1.
the softball team has always been the best in the state til this point. it hurt to lose Yvette to the tigers but, the lotief's have done a wonderful job.
robichaux has been the coach at ull for quiet some time now and takes a bunch of kids from La. (unlike LSU's 3) and competes well each and every year with them.
don't kid yourself into thinking that ull fans think that we will be as good in football as the tigers in our lifetime. none of us think that. some may say it just to frick with you though.
tailgating at ull is awesome. it's more like a festival atmosphere.
they serve alcohol in the stadiums so that makes it pretty fricking cool. especially at a baseball game. on a beautiful day, there's nothing like going drink beer and relax at a bball game. especially when we are #1.
the softball team has always been the best in the state til this point. it hurt to lose Yvette to the tigers but, the lotief's have done a wonderful job.
robichaux has been the coach at ull for quiet some time now and takes a bunch of kids from La. (unlike LSU's 3) and competes well each and every year with them.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:40 am to TigersOfGeauxld
The fan base alone will never surpass LSU in size. The attendance can never be the same. Therefore the funding will need compare which means the facilities will take several decades to ever come close to comparison if ever. And kids won't be lining up to play a major sport at an inferior state school. Let them focus on something other than football and they may do well. But it's a different level and always will be.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:48 am to TigersOfGeauxld
ULL coaches and administrators should not be allowed to refer to themselves as UL. Not in keeping with the law and is an insult to the University of Louisiana at Monroe! Knock off the charade!
Posted on 3/28/14 at 7:54 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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TL:DR version...don't sleep on ULL.
Posted on 3/28/14 at 8:12 am to TigersOfGeauxld
No offense, but this is what losers do; they blame external phenomena for failure. Alabama has as tough of an in-state competitor as you can get; they have less talent in their state then we do; yet they have been the top program in America over the last 50 years.
The threat is from within. It is our own reluctance to be great. It is so with everyone and with every organization.
The threat is from within. It is our own reluctance to be great. It is so with everyone and with every organization.
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