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re: Right Wing Pundit Michelle Malkin: "My trip to the pot shop."
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:03 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:03 pm to ProjectP2294
Yeah you gotta love all the people who don't smoke that are experts on pot. The real irony is they probably all drink.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:05 pm to constant cough
Great bro. It's a rather sordid admission that you have somehow elevated to respectability in your mind. I bet if I was able to have access to the facts and details of your life I could find some serious bullshite that has arisen due to your daily stonage, least of all (and this is typical with daily stoners) a failure to optimize on the opportunities that present themselves every once in a while that you need to be highly-focused and CLEAR enough and MOTIVATED enough to recognize.
Look man, I don't begrudge you your pot. Many of my life-long friends are stoners and I like them and/or respect them. But let's not pretend it's some kind of noble pursuit. It's a crutch or an escape at best. I mean, it's not really something that successful people pass along to their children. It's a vice.
Don't get angry at me for stating the obvious.
Look man, I don't begrudge you your pot. Many of my life-long friends are stoners and I like them and/or respect them. But let's not pretend it's some kind of noble pursuit. It's a crutch or an escape at best. I mean, it's not really something that successful people pass along to their children. It's a vice.
Don't get angry at me for stating the obvious.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:06 pm to GumboPot
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Hopefully federal law will catch up with state laws.
Feds aren't going to worry about personal use within state lines anyway.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:07 pm to GumboPot
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Hopefully federal law will catch up with state laws
Until it does, anyone who purchases pot legally in Colorado, will be felons if they lie on a 4473 form and will legally be barred from purchasing a firearm from an FFL dealer if they answer truthfully.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:07 pm to constant cough
I am not an expert as I have never smoked anything. Doesn't stop me from being legalization. Just as never shooting a gun doesn't keep me from being pro gun control. To state you can't have an opinion on these issues because you never participated makes me ask if you can have an opinion on abortion if you never have been pregnant.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:07 pm to GoBigOrange86
The addiction argument is flawed in two ways.
1. Pot is just like alcohol is just like gambling is just like sex is just like eating is just like watching QVC, etc ad nauseum. People with addictive tendencies will always find something to become addicted to. It's a strawman argument at best as people already get addicted to it even though it's still illegal in most places.
2. If we learned anything from Prohibition it's that banning the public from something it really wants only increases that desire and makes the doing of it more hip and cool.
Let it be legal, regulate it like alcohol and move on to something important.
1. Pot is just like alcohol is just like gambling is just like sex is just like eating is just like watching QVC, etc ad nauseum. People with addictive tendencies will always find something to become addicted to. It's a strawman argument at best as people already get addicted to it even though it's still illegal in most places.
2. If we learned anything from Prohibition it's that banning the public from something it really wants only increases that desire and makes the doing of it more hip and cool.
Let it be legal, regulate it like alcohol and move on to something important.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:08 pm to GumboPot
1. I'm for legalization of all drugs. And opposed to any govt sponsored intervention to rehab victims. Let them die in the gutter. It's called freedom and consequences of bad choices.
2. I never tried marijuana or even cigarettes because my dad smoked cigs and it irritated my eyes and throat. My older Bro had the same experience and never smoked anything.
3. The only literature on the bad effects of marijuana that are consistent is 'lethargy.' IE, college students who smoke get lower grades than peers who do not smoke.
4. Cheech and Chong were not funny to me when they first came out. Decades later, they are still not funny at all.
2. I never tried marijuana or even cigarettes because my dad smoked cigs and it irritated my eyes and throat. My older Bro had the same experience and never smoked anything.
3. The only literature on the bad effects of marijuana that are consistent is 'lethargy.' IE, college students who smoke get lower grades than peers who do not smoke.
4. Cheech and Chong were not funny to me when they first came out. Decades later, they are still not funny at all.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:08 pm to ironsides
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All unicorns and rainbows. The Mexican drug lobby and the bloods and crips union will never allow for legalization
You forgot to include Big Pharma and Big Criminal Justice to your list. (Both of which make billions off of pot illegalization)
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:08 pm to GumboPot
Good talk.
Its inevitable and It's only a matter of time before weed is legal everywhere. Institutional inertia is the only remaining obstacle and even that is falling by the wayside.
Its inevitable and It's only a matter of time before weed is legal everywhere. Institutional inertia is the only remaining obstacle and even that is falling by the wayside.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The problem I have is people whose lives REVOLVE around marijuana.
Not my problem, it's their problem.
It becomes OUR problem when these people live off the taxpayer dole. Whenever I go to the east side of Portland, I see why they say, "Portland. It's where young people go to retire.".
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:13 pm to goldennugget
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I am for states deciding drug laws
The states shouldn't have whined and gave away that power to the Fed in the 30's. As a 40 yr pot smoker, just legalize the shite, all this negative consequences is BS
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:13 pm to Sentrius
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a failure to optimize on the opportunities that present themselves every once in a while that you need to be highly-focused and CLEAR enough and MOTIVATED enough to recognize.
just because you were worthless when you smoked some mexican ditch swag 20 years ago doesn't mean everyone experiences the same affects today
you'd be amazed how different strains will make you feel. nothing gets me more motivated that a nice pull of some sativa.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:14 pm to Lsupimp
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Great bro. It's a rather sordid admission that you have somehow elevated to respectability in your mind. I bet if I was able to have access to the facts and details of your life I could find some serious bullshite that has arisen due to your daily stonage, least of all (and this is typical with daily stoners) a failure to optimize on the opportunities that present themselves every once in a while that you need to be highly-focused and CLEAR enough and MOTIVATED enough to recognize.
Look any problems I have or have had in life I take full responsibility for. I don't blame my problems on pot. That's a cop out and an excuse.
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Look man, I don't begrudge you your pot. Many of my life-long friends are stoners and I like them and/or respect them. But let's not pretend it's some kind of noble pursuit. It's a crutch or an escape at best. I mean, it's not really something that successful people pass along to their children. It's a vice.
I never said it was a noble pursuit but it's nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be.
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Don't get angry at me for stating the obvious
I'm not mad at you because you aren't stating the obvious only your opinion. Pot if used responsibly is not going to ruin your life anymore than somebody who has a beer or glass of wine each day after work.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:16 pm to Jax-Tiger
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It becomes OUR problem when these people live off the taxpayer dole
These people lacked motivation to begin with. Pot or no pot, you'll end up supporting them.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:17 pm to Lsupimp
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I bet if I was able to have access to the facts and details of your life I could find some serious bullshite that has arisen due to your daily stonage, least of all (and this is typical with daily stoners) a failure to optimize on the opportunities that present themselves every once in a while that you need to be highly-focused and CLEAR enough and MOTIVATED enough to recognize.
You have absolutely no basis for this sweeping generalization.
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Don't get angry at me for stating the obvious.
Nope, this is an unsubstantiated supposition based on your rather limited personal experiences.
Carry on.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:17 pm to ironsides
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All unicorns and rainbows. The Mexican drug lobby and the bloods and crips union will never allow for legalization
One of the dumber arguments in the debate is how if we legalized weed that the cartels would cease to exist and violence would die down.
They would just find other things to smuggle.
Drug Cartels are far too big and aren't just going to give up all they have and relinquish everything just because marijuana is legal in the US.
Use the gay lobby as an example. Will they just give up and cease to exist once gay marriage is legal in all 50 states? No, they will find another issue to wedge because the gay lobby is far too big and too much money/power is involved. Same with cartels. They will find something else.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:18 pm to Zach
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1. I'm for legalization of all drugs. And opposed to any govt sponsored intervention to rehab victims. Let them die in the gutter. It's called freedom and consequences of bad choices.
I love the idealist POV, but I don't believe I could support this totally in real life.
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2. I never tried marijuana or even cigarettes because my dad smoked cigs and it irritated my eyes and throat. My older Bro had the same experience and never smoked anything.
I've tried pot but along with not liking the buzz, I really don't like smoke entering my lungs. It gives me a claustrophobic feeling.
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3. The only literature on the bad effects of marijuana that are consistent is 'lethargy.' IE, college students who smoke get lower grades than peers who do not smoke.
I could see that. I could see where a general population of pot smokers would be less motivated than a general population of nonusers and thus effect the smokers grades negatively.
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4. Cheech and Chong were not funny to me when they first came out. Decades later, they are still not funny at all.
Cheech and Chong makes me cry laughing still today. "Nha mon, that's Labrador."
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:20 pm to goldennugget
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Use the gay lobby as an example. Will they just give up and cease to exist once gay marriage is legal in all 50 states? No, they will find another issue to wedge because the gay lobby is far too big and too much money/power is involved. Same with cartels. They will find something else.
Well, organized crime and prohibition is a much better example, but the Gays are the "red herring du jour".......
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:21 pm to goldennugget
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I am for states deciding drug laws, and am for people deciding for thsemlves if they want to use drugs, but personally am opposed to recreational marijuana use and still think the jury is out for medicinal reasons.
I also believe that there are negative consequences to marijuana legalization.
This.... Except the recreational use.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 1:24 pm
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