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re: The latest from the EBRPSS fiasco-school board meeting last night

Posted on 3/21/14 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126994 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 12:41 pm to
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What was improper about the audit that raised these issues?
I never said the state's review was improper. Please point out where I said it was. You can't do it because it didn't happen.

But it was a very limited sample, 5% as I recall. That's not complete enough to evaluate how extensive the irregularities were. And it only included high schools. Plus I didn't read anything from the state's review that identified why the problems were occurring. What was the cause of the irregularities? Was it incompetence? Was it intentional fraud? I would like to know that.
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Please explain what objections there are to how the audit was conducted that cause you to question the conclusions reached by the auditors.
I'm not questioning anything the state people did. You're being hyper sensitive and hyper critical making incorrect conclusions about what I've written. Stop being such a whiny butt.
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What happens when if a different conclusion is reached by the auditors selected by the EBRPSB?
The review the school board wants is to determine not only what but why the discrepancies occurred which, as I wrote above, the state review didn't include.

I think it is a damn good idea to try to determine why the irregularities occurred. I'm surprised you don't think that's important.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 12:47 pm to
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But it was a very limited sample, 5% as I recall. That's not complete enough to evaluate how extensive the irregularities were. And it only included high schools. Plus I didn't read anything from the state's review that identified why the problems were occurring. What was the cause of the irregularities? Was it incompetence? Was it intentional fraud? I would like to know that.


The question though is are there enough school board members that really want to know that? Where there's smoke there's fire so what if this is just the leading edge of a very big forest fire? What if it turns out that there are drastically more issues in heavily-black or heavily-white schools? Is there enough will on the board to want this brought out to the fullest degree, regardless of who/what it may harm?
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:02 pm to
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But it was a very limited sample, 5% as I recall. That's not complete enough to evaluate how extensive the irregularities were. And it only included high schools. Plus I didn't read anything from the state's review that identified why the problems were occurring. What was the cause of the irregularities? Was it incompetence? Was it intentional fraud? I would like to know that.


My understanding was that the DOE audit was not intended to be the thorough audit to answer all of the questions, but simply to determine if something happened. In fact they turned the investigation over to the IG I thought in order to do a more thorough investigation and answer these questions of why.

While the investigation itself is not enough on its own to call for resignations, I think the reaction to it and Taylor's record of ineffectiveness here is more than enough. It's past time for him to go.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/21/14 at 1:18 pm to
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I think it is a damn good idea to try to determine why the irregularities occurred. I'm surprised you don't think that's important.
What motive could an EBRPSS employee have that would justify falsifying student records for reporting to state officials? I don't care about excuses. I want accountability. Rather than another audit, why doesn't the EBRPSB invite law enforcement to conduct a criminal investigation into the known irregularities? The EBRPSB members and the Superintendent should be more outraged by the findings than the public. They were personally betrayed by their "trusted" employees.
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1092 posts
Posted on 3/21/14 at 3:00 pm to
I think that someone missed the point of your postings. You pointed out that the board president essentially said that we need to get to the bottom of this and that you think a reputable firm should do a more extensive review. I think that we would all agree to that. But I think some people here are unset with some of the original quotes -- not yours -- that seem to deny the existence of a problem. I would agree that if fraud is involved, someone needs to be at least fired and maybe prosecuted, depending on what actually happened. Incompetence may require a different solution.
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