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re: Official Thread: Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:08 pm to
Can someone post this pic of the updated "pings"?

LINK
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:08 pm to
Does Burma have radar capable of detecting this plane had it come into its airspace?
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:09 pm to
A man can be hidden in a house alot more easily than a 777 ( with 200+ people ( or bodies) to dispose of) can be hidden, even in an aircraft shed.


However, if you are looking at the pilots, I would look more at the captain, not the co pilot. Something like this kind of job would take a very dedicated personality to pull off. Would you go with the guy so enthralled by blondes, he was smoking with them during an entire flight on the flight deck....or that guy that recreated a 777 simulator in his house?

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:09 pm to

track based off of US information.



This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:12 pm to
I Was reading a Uk telegraph article where they were quoting an Indian military guy, and to be honest, he wasn't sounding all that helpful. He also seemed to imply that two military radar points in the Andaman Islands weren't always onboard so to speak due to budget issues? Are the Andamans where Indian does it nuclear testing?
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:13 pm to
Napoleon, what info to support that zig zag?
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:13 pm to
those are the navigational waystations apparently.
Posted by cabinuga
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:15 pm to
Interesting...the flight path followed the VAMPI, GIVAL, and IGREX waypoints exactly.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:15 pm to
navigational waypoints. I drew the first one off of something I saw on TV. Then Iluv posted it in a link and I copied the image from there.

Those islands do have an airport that could easily land a 777. But still someone would know it was there.


This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted by SoGaFan
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:21 pm to
Yeah, the Andamans have apretty heavy Indian military presence. I know there are a ton of smaller islands, but I doubt they would have the amount of flat space that could easily accomodate a runway. I think those islands are pretty mountainous, no?
This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:23 pm to
So it went west. Then north. Then said "ahh Phucket" and headed back west.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:23 pm to
I just checked on google maps and there looks to be one runway on Point Blair. It looks kinda long to me but I dunno. Also a lot of the area around it seems to be military names and it's in a populated area of the island.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:24 pm to
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the flight path followed the VAMPI, GIVAL, and IGREX waypoints exactly.


For someone completely stupid... What does that mean?

Are the waypoints the common routes that flights would take?
Posted by PJinAtl
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:28 pm to
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For someone completely stupid... What does that mean? Are the waypoints the common routes that flights would take?
From a Reuters article I read, VAMPI would be a waypoint on a corridor that would be traversed by planes going from that area to the Middle East. IGREX is a waypoint on a corridor that would be traversed by planes going from that area to Europe.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:29 pm to
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Are the waypoints the common routes that flights would take?



yes. they were set up as part of the older system. You could tune in a waypoint and a needle on your instruments would point you to that point. then as you passed it you would then set the next one.

If you ever see one of these. (they have them literally all over the country) this is an RNAV signal generator.


The one in Hammond you can see from the road, I know.


The device that relied on them is the VHF range finder (VOR)

Still used in many planes. Mostly as a back up system.

This post was edited on 3/14/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted by cabinuga
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:30 pm to
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For someone completely stupid... What does that mean? Are the waypoints the common routes that flights would take?


It implies that someone deliberately entered the specific waypoint coordinates for the plane to follow.
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:31 pm to
So if all your normal instruments that you use to find your way from point to point went dead, you could use these old waypoints to try and find your way somewhere?
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:31 pm to
So the heading to each of those points has to be manually set correct? So someone was flying the plane.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:32 pm to



There's one new area apparently being focused on that might strike people as especially interesting: a closed, largely uninhabited archipelago called the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.

Let's take a closer look.

What are the Andaman and Nicobar Islands?
The Andaman and Nicobar Islands are an Indian-controlled union territory about 850 miles east of the mainland. The archipelago, with about 380,000 residents, is known to be a place of natural beauty, with emerald waters and coral reefs that draw backpackers and honeymooners. It is also home to several protected indigenous tribes.
But it is also viewed by the government as an important spot for monitoring China and key shipping lanes. There are two large Indian military installations there, for the navy, army, air force and coast guard.


Andaman and Nicobar Islands, remote Indian archipelago, now part of MH370 hunt
Posted by cabinuga
Athens, GA
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/14/14 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

So the heading to each of those points has to be manually set correct? So someone was flying the plane.


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