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Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:04 am to
You have a jaundiced view of libertarianism. We are not consumed with gay marriage or drug legalization. We are for freedom and that means limited govt and private property rights.

I suppose you've met some anti-Christian sorts who claim to be libertarian. But freedom means being free to worship in any way you see fit as long as it does not infringe upon my freedom.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23233 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:06 am to
quote:

You have a jaundiced view of libertarianism. We are not consumed with gay marriage or drug legalization. We are for freedom and that means limited govt and private property rights.

I suppose you've met some anti-Christian sorts who claim to be libertarian. But freedom means being free to worship in any way you see fit as long as it does not infringe upon my freedom.


Bingo. Real freedom is allowing someone to do something that you may find morally reprehensible, as long as it doesnt infringe upon your rights.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15146 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Zach


Well said.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:14 am to
quote:

You have a jaundiced view of libertarianism.


No Zach, I dont. You are usually dead on the money with posts on this board and I respect what you have to say but I understand Libertarianism.

quote:

We are for freedom and that means limited govt and private property rights.


In theory, yes Libertarians believe this. I
believe the same thing.

In reality it often gets manifested by Libertarians being consumed by or THE PERCEPTION that Libertarians priortize social issues over fiscal issues.

Perception is way more powerful than reality. I loved Ron Paul but he was destroyed by the way mainstream conservatives perceived him. This had a lot to do with himself and his supporters.

It cant be an all or nothing game. If it is, Libertarians are about as useful to their own cause as a blister on the bottom of a runners foot.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75715 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 11:29 am to
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Zach



I don't always agree with you on here, but that post was spot on.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 11:30 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56944 posts
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

You have a jaundiced view of libertarianism. We are not consumed with gay marriage or drug legalization. We are for freedom and that means limited govt and private property rights.

I suppose you've met some anti-Christian sorts who claim to be libertarian. But freedom means being free to worship in any way you see fit as long as it does not infringe upon my freedom.



I think your beliefs probably fall very much in line with the OP.

I think his point, which I agree with, is that the trend seems to be that libertarians are shifting away from the Republican party. This is a big mistake. Instead, the best approach would be an attack on the Republican party from the inside out...ultimately rebuilding the Republican party into what is really should be.

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