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Heart Surgeon declares "we were wrong" re causes of heart disease
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:08 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:08 am
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Simply stated, without inflammation being present in the body, there is no way that cholesterol would accumulate in the wall of the blood vessel and cause heart disease and strokes. Without inflammation, cholesterol would move freely throughout the body as nature intended. It is inflammation that causes cholesterol to become trapped.
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The rest of us have simply followed the recommended mainstream diet that is low in fat and high in polyunsaturated fats and carbohydrates, not knowing we were causing repeated injury to our blood vessels. This repeated injury creates chronic inflammation leading to heart disease, stroke, diabetes and obesity.
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:31 am to C
So you're telling me I can actually eat butter, cream and bacon? 
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 5:15 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:13 am to C
Good article.
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What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flour and all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.
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There is but one answer to quieting inflammation, and that is returning to foods closer to their natural state. To build muscle, eat more protein. Choose carbohydrates that are very complex such as colorful fruits and vegetables. Cut down on or eliminate inflammation- causing omega-6 fats like corn and soybean oil and the processed foods that are made from them.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:25 am to C
Good article. Thanks
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:56 am to C
Interesting article. I'm not saying the article is good or bad but he seems to ignore the fact that in order for your vessel walls to plaque, your blood must be high is cholesterol. Inflammation isn't going to cause that level to be high.
It seems to me that a more sensible diet is what is he almost recommending.
It seems to me that a more sensible diet is what is he almost recommending.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 5:59 am to C
So the "consensus" in medical science that animal fats are bad is wrong?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:40 am to C
There's a reason it's called "Practicing" medicine
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:43 am to C
This article is pretty much how I view nutrition right now it is supported by the most recent science. Whenever I ask someone who is in their late 80's or older, and in great physical and mental health, what their habits are like, they almost always tell me that they stay as active as possible throughout the day; eat pretty much old school, whole food diets (most make a point to say bacon); and take very few medications.
I find it fascinating to look at how poorly written and extremely outdated most nutrition guidelines from the government and medical organizations. For decades people have been advised to stay away from what are now known to be the most healthful foods.
One of the most well-documented strategies to slow, and potentially partially reverse senescence, is to reduce calories intake (particularly carbohydrates). When I see most of the "healthy diet foods" that come in packages (meal replacement shakes, fiber one bars, etc), they almost always contain refined grains and fructose. Most people have no concept of what real food is.
I find it fascinating to look at how poorly written and extremely outdated most nutrition guidelines from the government and medical organizations. For decades people have been advised to stay away from what are now known to be the most healthful foods.
One of the most well-documented strategies to slow, and potentially partially reverse senescence, is to reduce calories intake (particularly carbohydrates). When I see most of the "healthy diet foods" that come in packages (meal replacement shakes, fiber one bars, etc), they almost always contain refined grains and fructose. Most people have no concept of what real food is.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 7:54 am to C
anyone on a ketogenic diet or paleo type diet already knew this.
there is a vast amount of research that supports the OP.
I have been on a ketogenic diet for about 8 months now. i shoot for a daily macro intake of about 60% fats, 30% Proteins and 10% carbs. i have lost a bunch of weight, I feel amazing, I am never hungry, and my blood work has greatly improved.
we have been lied to by the government and academics about fats and carbs for year, somewhat out of necessity. the government has to promote a diet high in carbs otherwise there would not be enough food for everyone to eat and/or food prices would be extraordinarily high....both of which would lead to serious issues like violence or riots.
there is a vast amount of research that supports the OP.
I have been on a ketogenic diet for about 8 months now. i shoot for a daily macro intake of about 60% fats, 30% Proteins and 10% carbs. i have lost a bunch of weight, I feel amazing, I am never hungry, and my blood work has greatly improved.
we have been lied to by the government and academics about fats and carbs for year, somewhat out of necessity. the government has to promote a diet high in carbs otherwise there would not be enough food for everyone to eat and/or food prices would be extraordinarily high....both of which would lead to serious issues like violence or riots.
This post was edited on 1/26/14 at 7:59 am
Posted on 1/26/14 at 9:17 am to C
I am 47 years old and admit I need to eat better. Recently I changed doctors (nurse practioner actually). She has made a big deal over my cholesterol level. Everyone in my family has high cholesterol with the exception of my mother. We all eat the same type of diet.
She insisted on putting me on cholesterol medicine. I did not fill the prescription. On a follow up visit she was excited about testing my cholesterol to see how much it went down after taking the medicine for two months. Needless to say she hit the ceiling when I told her I had not been taking it.
She ordered an EKG and told me that the good news was that I was not having a heart attack now but that I had experienced a silent MI within the past two weeks. She got me in to see a cardiologist early the next morning. She said that she hoped the cardiologist could convince me where she could not. She also said that I might need to change care givers if I had a problem listening to her because she is a woman.
In short, the cardiologist told me after performing another EKG that I had not had a silent MI and that he agreed with me that I should not take the cholesterol medicine. Basically the article in the OP is a summary of what he told me.
She insisted on putting me on cholesterol medicine. I did not fill the prescription. On a follow up visit she was excited about testing my cholesterol to see how much it went down after taking the medicine for two months. Needless to say she hit the ceiling when I told her I had not been taking it.
She ordered an EKG and told me that the good news was that I was not having a heart attack now but that I had experienced a silent MI within the past two weeks. She got me in to see a cardiologist early the next morning. She said that she hoped the cardiologist could convince me where she could not. She also said that I might need to change care givers if I had a problem listening to her because she is a woman.
In short, the cardiologist told me after performing another EKG that I had not had a silent MI and that he agreed with me that I should not take the cholesterol medicine. Basically the article in the OP is a summary of what he told me.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 9:19 am to C
Wake me up when they admit that smoking doesn't cause lung cancer.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 9:48 am to C
Think this doc was sued for bad medical practices and lost his licence.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:03 am to C
quote:Dr. Dwight C. Lundell's license to practice medicine was stripped from him in Oct 2008
Heart Surgeon declares "we were wrong" re causes of heart disease
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:41 am to C
Interesting in light of the newly released ATP4 guidelines that recommend statins like candy.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 10:50 am to C
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:27 am to C
that's why they call it practicing medicine, they don't have it down yet.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 11:44 am to C
so basically, just follow the no carb diet and you'll be fine, correct? I mean, eat just meats and veggies and all is well?
I can do this with no problem.
I can do this with no problem.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 12:18 pm to C
People who eat unhealthy live the longest 
Posted on 1/26/14 at 12:18 pm to C
Here's some other reading material that discusses this as well.
The Great Cholesterol Myth
I Worked as a rep for Genentech in the 90's selling TPA (Clot buster for heart attacks). At the time, I knew the data from the major heart attack trials much better than most treating MDs. IIRC, in one study of 40,000 patients with documented myocardial infarction, 35% of the subjects had normal cholesterol levels. I always wondered why they got heart attacks, maybe this explains it.
Someone mentioned good vs bad cholesterol, but it is more complex than that. The size of the bad cholesterol molecules and the percentage of small vs large matters. If the major component of your bad cholesterol is of the large molecular size it is not atherogenic.
Ask them to do an NMR next time your MD orders a lipid panel.
The Great Cholesterol Myth
I Worked as a rep for Genentech in the 90's selling TPA (Clot buster for heart attacks). At the time, I knew the data from the major heart attack trials much better than most treating MDs. IIRC, in one study of 40,000 patients with documented myocardial infarction, 35% of the subjects had normal cholesterol levels. I always wondered why they got heart attacks, maybe this explains it.
Someone mentioned good vs bad cholesterol, but it is more complex than that. The size of the bad cholesterol molecules and the percentage of small vs large matters. If the major component of your bad cholesterol is of the large molecular size it is not atherogenic.
Ask them to do an NMR next time your MD orders a lipid panel.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 12:24 pm to C
5,000 surgeries over a 25 year career? That's 200 per year. A "good" heart surgeon would do 5,000 in 5 to 10 years.
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