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Starting Your Own Business: Early questions

Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:21 pm
Not anywhere near the point to start my own business yet.

But i was just wondering, whenever you decided to take that chance, and start your own business, what did you do for money before your product started turning a profit?

I want to start up a brewery one day in the future. I still have a few books to read and a lot more beer to brew before I even think about formulating a business plan and looking for investors.

What did you do, right at the beginning, for money? I have a good job right now, but I am risk averse. I would like to one day start up a brewery, but the biggest question i initially have in my mind is, "How do I pay myself before i even start making money? What replaces the loss of a steady paycheck?"

Does some of the loan money go towards paying yourself?

Just curious. The brewery idea may never happen, or maybe it will. But this is one question I do not know the answer to.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:30 pm to
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What did you do, right at the beginning, for money?
Investors. Structuring debt/equity agreements that benefits both parties, bank loans, personal savings.

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"How do I pay myself before i even start making money? What replaces the loss of a steady paycheck?"
Simple answer, debt. If you don't have enough cash flow to pay yourself, debt is necessary. Keeping personal overhead as low as possible before start-up is obviously advantageous.
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Does some of the loan money go towards paying yourself?

Yes, you should definitely include this in your business proposal if you don't feel you will be hauling in the cash early on.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43476 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 3:55 pm to
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I have a good job right now, but I am risk averse.


Starting your own business will be riskier than being employed. Because you hold the most risk and have the most to lose.

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What did you do, right at the beginning, for money? I have a good job right now, but I am risk averse. I would like to one day start up a brewery, but the biggest question i initially have in my mind is, "How do I pay myself before i even start making money? What replaces the loss of a steady paycheck?"


If you are willing to give away ownership, you can take on partners. I know we have talked about this idea and I have a few wealthy people who have shown serious interest in giving capital up front for ownership. I want to start with brewpub because I can pay that off myself and not give away ownership. My plan is to have at least 6 months living in my bank account and I'd expect to not get paid for a while. Especially in brewing where your cash cycle is so long.

You have to pay for grains and such, brew,ferment, age, then sell. If you are selling to a distributor, expect another month before you are getting paid after delivering the goods. That means you are gonna have a 2.5 month period where you have paid for goods but aren't getting paid for your production.

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Does some of the loan money go towards paying yourself?


With little to no "professional" experience it's going to be damn near impossible for you to get any type of loan. Some may take a chance on ownership because there is more reward for the risk taken. While getting a loan would be ideal, I doubt you will find even a small business loan and if you do, they would likely only give you 60% of what you need to get business running.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59646 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:00 pm to
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what did you do for money before your product started turning a profit?

Had enough saved up to live about 18 months without ever making a dime.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127095 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 4:22 pm to
I saved enough to have a year's amount of income at my previous "employed by someone else" compensation rate.

I decided going in I would give my business 6 months to be self-sustaining. If by the end of 6 months more money was going out than coming in, I would start the process of shutting down and I would still have 6 more months of savings to live on while I looked for a job.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:31 pm to
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Does some of the loan money go towards paying yourself?


Within reason of course, and any investor will expect that.

Whether they will want to pay for someone with little to no professional experience is another matter.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4976 posts
Posted on 1/14/14 at 8:45 pm to
Get as much work experience as you can first.

Try to work for someone else in the business for a while, if you can.

Determine to know your craft inside and out.

Know all the rules and regs: state, local & federal.

A year of living expenses is a must, you probably will not make a profit for a least a year.

Become so good at your craft that your reputation will be a magnet for future investors.

ETA: Don't fudge your estimated expenses. Think of daily operating expenses in your mix as well. Try to foresee unknown variables as well, these can kill your business.

Good luck
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 9:05 pm
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