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Why The 2015 Ford F-150 Is Better For The Environment Than The Prius
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:28 pm
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Getting into our example, Madowitz made the case that the rumored "3 MPG" increase in the new F-150 will result in less gas burned than the even a larger increase one would experience buying a Prius over a Corolla.
A 1 MPG increase is not equivalent to a 1 GPM decrease. Increasing the MPG of a vehicle that's already frugal on fuel doesn't reduce gas used over 500 miles by much. Meanwhile, an efficiency increase that's a smaller number in MPG but greater in terms of percentage of the original will reduce GPM substantially.
Imagine you're deciding whether to buy a Prius or a Corolla. The Corolla gets 30 MPG, the Prius gets 49 — 63% more. But if you're driving 500 miles, you only reduce gallons of gas burned by about 6.5 driving the Prius.
Madowitz focuses on two effects in this scenario: First, let's say you're deciding between a used 2013 F-150 that gets 14 MPG to a 2015 one that people are speculating will get 3 MPG better, bringing economy to 17. MPG would increase by 21%, but you burn about 6.3 fewer gallons of gas over 500 miles.
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The second effect that comes into play is that many more F-150s are sold than hybrids. According to the data he found, it was about half a million vs 150,000 Prii. Madowitz went on to say it seemed like all hybrid and EV vehicle sales combine only became comparable to F-150 sales last year.
If the efficiency of a small group of vehicles is improved significantly, the total amount of fuel saved will still be less than if the consumption of a massive group of vehicles increases slightly.
For a more direct comparison, the 150,000 people who bought a Prius over a Corolla cut American oil consumption by some 670,000 barrels per year. If Ford hits the 3 MPG increase we heard about when the 2.7 EcoBoost was first being speculated on and F-150 sales remain consistent, US oil consumption would drop somewhere between 1.4 and 2.3 million barrels a year.
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Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:30 pm to saintforlife1
Why don't they make a hybrid F-150?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:35 pm to saintforlife1
I don't follow. How is 17MPG better for the environment than 49MPG?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:36 pm to saintforlife1
This does not compare the two things you claim it compares.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:37 pm to boom roasted
Large numbers are tough for you?
More trucks out there than clown cars.
More trucks out there than clown cars.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:37 pm to saintforlife1
Kind of a bunk study dude. Not comparing apples to apples.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:40 pm to saintforlife1
Stellar reading comprehension in this thread.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:41 pm to Mr.Perfect
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Large numbers are tough for you?
quote:This is where I'm lost. Just because there are more of one particular car does not make up for the fact that one uses less gas/oil than the other.
More trucks out there than clown cars.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:42 pm to saintforlife1
Didn't go into the link but are they only using the ecoboost sales?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:42 pm to saintforlife1
If you're just going to trust your superiors for their word, drop out now and come work for me. I'll pay you commission and per mile.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:49 pm to boom roasted
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Just because there are more of one particular car does not make up for the fact that one uses less gas/oil than the other.
goddamn people are stupid.
instead of 'pie in the sky if everyone drove cars that ran on fish farts' the guy is actually showing what improvements to the environment have been gained by the new 150.
how is this hard to understand? heaven forbid someone actually study the real world instead of some ivory tower electric car utopia what-ifs.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:50 pm to boom roasted
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This is where I'm lost. Just because there are more of one particular car does not make up for the fact that one uses less gas/oil than the other.
what the argument is saying, is that ford's new design will benefit the environment more, as a whole, than toyota putting out the prius did
obviously one person driving a prius over another driving a truck, the prius will win out
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:52 pm to CAD703X
Damn dude. Your BF wouldn't give you any dick this morning?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:56 pm to CAD703X
These numbers aren't all real world scenarios. First, it just takes people who bought the Prius over a corolla. What about buying it over other vehicles which more than likely have lower mpg than the corolla? Same for the ecoboost. What vehicles will be passed up for it? I can bet not all of them are as bad as 14 mpg.
Then you have the "better" claim in this title. Better compared to what? Not to each other, but in comparison to completely separate vehicles which I can claim using almost any two I want as long as the mpg are different enough.
Then you have the "better" claim in this title. Better compared to what? Not to each other, but in comparison to completely separate vehicles which I can claim using almost any two I want as long as the mpg are different enough.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:00 pm to CAD703X
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ran on fish farts'
not so sure that would be good for the environment either.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:04 pm to boom roasted
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Posted by Message boom roasted Why The 2015 Ford F-150 Is Better For The Environment Than The Prius I don't follow. How is 17MPG better for the environment than 49MPG?
Top gear on fuel economy
Funny but half way through they tell you how bad hybrids are for the environment
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:12 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Funny but half way through they tell you how bad hybrids are for the environment
Great episode
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:15 pm to Phil A Sheo
Bottom line it's how you drive.
Good economy doesn't equal good for the environment
Good economy doesn't equal good for the environment
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