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re: Jarvis Landry returning to school?

Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by BoulderTiger
Boulder County: Lafayette, Colorado
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:46 pm to
Marcus Mariota is a projected to 10 pick and he is staying - just sayin
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:47 pm to
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Marcus Mariota is a projected to 10 pick


Really? That would be the worst draft pick of all time
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26777 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:48 pm to
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I would rather him slip to the 3rd and go to A Team that is doing halfway decent.


Hew will be gone in the second. All the best RBs and WRs will go in the second except for the elite few going in the first. There are plenty teams who would like to pick him up.
Posted by KG5989
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:02 pm to
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none of them are 6'2" and none of the ones highlighted ran 4.3 in fact they are all 6', save Maclin, who was 6'1"


Dude... Hakeem Nicks... 6'1. Justin Blacmon.... 6'1. They are both 1.85 M. Which is 6.069 ft. The exact same height. Sorry someone rounds up. Google Hakeem Nicks / Blackmon height and let me know what it says. Because it says 6'1. Guess i should go change that 6'2 thing down 1 inch to 6'1. The 1 that is 6'0 is Maclin. Dont know where you got the info that Maclin is 6'1. Hes 1.83 M tall. Which is 6.003 feet. I said they were 6'2... they are both 6.07ft.... 6'1. And thats actually official height. And not to mention Blackmon weighs 207lbs and Nicks weighs 212lbs. And those are official numbes. OBJs height and weight arent official. So you saying hes this tall or that heavy isnt true.

When did i ever say he wasnt explosive?? Never said it. He is explosive. Dont know where youre getting that I said hes not explosive from. I said he wasnt physical. And thats because hes not. But, according to you, because hes only 10lbs lighter and a few inches shorter than some players, hes physically on the same level. When hes not.

Oh look were bringing out college stats... they mean so much. What was Calvin Johnsons college stats?

And his hands are improved, again i said that. But that doesnt mean he doesnt have inconsistent hands.

And again, all of this was started because I listed WRs that were taken in the 1st round the last 5 years and said OBJ isnt a 1st rounder. Your acting like I said hes wont be drafted til the 5th round or something like that. And out of the entire list, there are only 2 that you can compare OBJ to physically and playing style, Maclin and Wright. Ill give you Maclin, even though I disagree. But thats still only 2 WRs.

And then you look at the WRs in this upcoming draft class. There are at least 6 WRs ahead of him. Hes not a 1st rounder.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:05 pm to
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Dude has had some serious case of drops the last 2 years


I recall him dropping some in early '12, e.g., near our sideline vs UF. Since then, remind me of all these drops.
Posted by Meldedee
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:05 pm to
I have always heard he want to get his degree before going to the league. I heard OBJ's parents want him to get a degree, too.
Posted by Meldedee
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
3319 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:07 pm to
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Dude has had some serious case of drops the last 2 years


I will take drops like this guy has been making ALL SEASON LONG!!! If the ball was in his zip code, he caught it ONE HANDED, over the back of the defender.... any way he had to... GOT THE JOB DONE!!!
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:08 pm to
Oh were bringing out pictures... how fun.

Jarvis is listed at 6'1 195 lbs. According to you, OBJ is 5'11- 6'0 190lbs.



Both are sort of hunched over, but Jarvis looks significantly bigger than OBJ.

And again, all your heights and weight for OBJ is pointless. We dont know his official size. We do know Maclins, Nicks, Blackmons, etc. After the combine, we will find out his true size.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:10 pm to
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Oh look were bringing out college stats... they mean so much. What was Calvin Johnsons college stats?


CAREER
178 receptions
2,927 yards
28 touchdowns

2006
76 receptions
1,202 yards
15 touchdowns

He won the Biletnikoff as well. Oh, and he did this with a QB who might be the worst QB in Division 1 history. Reggie Ball made JJ look like Joe Montana.

College production matters. Johnson was insanely productive, and in an incompetent offense. That's why people knew he was going to be good.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14931 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:16 pm to
I only read 2 pages, didn't read all 5 so I apologize if this has been said.

But people have already said it, there's an extremely extremely small chance he goes in the 1st or even high 2nd round, imo. He's not an outside receiver because he doesn't have the speed. We matched him up in the slot against smaller corners, linebackers, and safeties to make a mismatch. He was struggling getting separation when OBJ went out the game. I love Landry, probably my favorite receiver to walk through LSU. Best hands I've ever seen, and tough as nails. But this day in age, combine>>>game film. He probably will run a 4.6 at the combine and he'll only measure at 5'11. I think it's dumb that combine numbers outweigh college stats, but they do. He's ranked around 8-10 for WR's coming out. That would put him probably 3rd round. He could and probably should come back.
Posted by KG5989
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:16 pm to
Damn didnt know Megatron was that productive in the option offense haha.

But still, my point was college stats dont mean a guy is awesome or bad, or should be a 1st rounder or an UDFA. Its college production, Thats all.

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But this day in age, combine>>>game film


And this is flat out wrong too. It might mean more for the analysts working at NFL Network. But all coaches know that film >>>> than combine. I think it was John Harbaugh at last years combine that said they coaches dont even need the combine. They know who they like on film. The coaches use the combine to make sure a guy is as good an athlete as they thought, and it helps the less recognized guys get some spotlight. But they dont think the combine shows more than what game film does.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:18 pm to
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Both are sort of hunched over, but Jarvis looks significantly bigger than OBJ


OBJ is also a good yard behind Landry in the picture therefore its a perception thing. I've stood next to Landry and spoken to him. He's a solid 5'11 1/2. I could possibly give him 6 but that's as high as possible.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
19175 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:19 pm to
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This. I could happen since he won't have to share with ODB for targets. Wishful thinking


Obviously, you did not see the Tweets OBJ sent out after the game looking like he has thoughts of staying... Yeah, your right. wishful thinking.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:21 pm to
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I've stood next to Landry and spoken to him. He's a solid 5'11 1/2


Yea ive stood next to both of them and talked to both of them.

I agree Jarvis is pushing 6'0, at the tallest. But i wasnt talking about Jarvis. I was talking about OBJ. No way OBJ is just as tall and only a few lbs lighter than Jarvis.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:23 pm
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14931 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:25 pm to
Agreed. OBJ is probably 5'11 and 185 on a good day
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279526 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:29 pm to
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Dude... Hakeem Nicks... 6'1. Justin Blacmon.... 6'1. They are both 1.85 M. Which is 6.069 ft. The exact same height. Sorry someone rounds up. Google Hakeem Nicks / Blackmon height and let me know what it says. Because it says 6'1. Guess i should go change that 6'2 thing down 1 inch to 6'1. The 1 that is 6'0 is Maclin. Dont know where you got the info that Maclin is 6'1. Hes 1.83 M tall. Which is 6.003 feet. I said they were 6'2... they are both 6.07ft.... 6'1. And thats actually official height. And not to mention Blackmon weighs 207lbs and Nicks weighs 212lbs. And those are official numbes. OBJs height and weight arent official. So you saying hes this tall or that heavy isnt true.



Well, when you paint the picture that they are these monster freak athletes, then it needs to be addressed.

Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones, like you mentioned, are BIG, physical, FREAK athletes. They have both the body and the athleticism


The point remains Nicks and Blackmon are both 6'0". They are great athletes, but they aren't really freaks.

do I think OBJ will weigh in at 212 like Nicks? Prob not. But id bet he's within 10lbs of that or so. At 5'11", which i think is about his height. He is right there in that class.

If you want to round up, fine, then OBJ is 6'. Whatever man. That's a stupid way to look at it. You want want go guess Beckham's height to the last cenitmeter, and not even give him credit for being in the 5'11" range, then on the other hand you want to round these guys up and pretend they are 6'1". ok

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Oh look were bringing out college stats... they mean so much. What was Calvin Johnsons college stats?



well, thats why i used average yards per catch. 20 YPC is elite. In the SEC? Even Julio Jones(14.5) and AJ Green(14.9) didnt compare to that (not saying he is better, but come on).

How do you think he does it? He has to possess some of the same qualities of these guys to be that good.

And Calvin Johnson for the record had 76 catches 1200 yards and 15 TDs his JR year. 16 YPC.


Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279526 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:31 pm to
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Oh were bringing out pictures... how fun.

Jarvis is listed at 6'1 195 lbs. According to you, OBJ is 5'11- 6'0 190lbs.



Beckham is clearly lined up off the line of scrimmage. depth perception

LSUButt covered that, nvm
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:33 pm
Posted by beardedzeus
NOLA
Member since Mar 2006
4474 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:35 pm to
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Damn didnt know Megatron was that productive in the option offense haha.


Megatron didnt play in an option offense. Demaryius thomas did. Megatron just had the misfortune of catching passes from reggie ball but he did play in chan gaileys pro style O
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:48 pm to
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do I think OBJ will weigh in at 212 like Nicks? Prob not. But id bet he's within 10lbs of that or so. At 5'11", which i think is about his height. He is right there in that class. If you want to round up, fine, then OBJ is 6'. Whatever man. That's a stupid way to look at it. You want want go guess Beckham's height to the last cenitmeter, and not even give him credit for being in the 5'11" range, then on the other hand you want to round these guys up and pretend they are 6'1". ok


OK so OBJ will be around 200lbs when the combine comes around??

Ha well if were rounding up OBJs height, then he will be 5'11.

And, again, this didnt start because I said Beckham is this tall or this heavy. This started because I said OBJ wont be a 1st rounder. And i dont think he will. Those guys, even Nicks and Blackmon, are still bigger and stronger and play more physical than OBJ has ever played. Regardless of their size.

And OBJ should have a high YPC. He is our deep guy. And you keep saying he averaged 20 YPC in the SEC. And thats false. Hes averaging 16 YPC against SEC opponents. Honestly, his only good game vs SEC team came against Miss St, when Jarvis was hobbled with an ankle injury. He did shred Miss St. But, besides that game,he didnt do that much vs SEC opponents. He had 118 yards vs UGA, but everyone and their mother in that game had a lot of yards In fact, 534 of his 1117 yards came against TCU, UAB, Kent St, and Furman.

And again, Im not saying OBJ wont be a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Im saying he wont be a 1st round pick. You keep coming at me like I dont think hes good or explosive or any of that. I do. I just dont think he will be a 1st rounder.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 7:51 pm
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:52 pm to
Would be great to have Landry work with the new incoming WRs to teach them for a year.
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