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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:53 pm to
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Winston denied all accusations he had sexually assaulted a woman.


quote:

Winston and the accuser had consensual sex Jansen seemed to backtrack,


Do you not know the difference between consensual sex and sexual assault?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:08 pm to
Can you read?

The reporter asked if the sex was consenual

He replied "I'm not saying that"

So if hes not saying they she consented to sex, how did his DNA get in her panties?

If she did not give consent, its an assault. Actually battery.
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
2872 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:12 pm to
I'm not reading all 48 pages. I'm hopeful that the victim is getting some support. Both parties deserve equal support, but I sense that the superstar is getting a pass. If he raped this girl, is it more important that he's charged before or after the season?

I know it's important that FSU finishes strong. I only hope the victim, if proven to be a true victim, receives justice.

If Jameis was a typical criminal would he get protection from local police? Would the police tell the victim to "just let it go" if Jameis was a nobody?

Looking forward to the outcome. And I hope our justice system doesn't fail the victim or Jameis.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:12 pm to
Oh, I was hoping you would say that. So, Jansen is trying to win the battle in the court of public opinion by saying that his client had nonconsensual sex???



It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:12 pm to
League champs has shown how important having a legal system is. He has truly shown me how scary the mob mentality can be
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

her aunt being the attorney.

Link?
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16612 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:16 pm to
Another lucky break for bama just,like Colt McCoy getting hurt in first series , Boise missing chip shot FG and Okie St. Shitting the bed on stormy Thursday night.....
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

League champs has shown how important having a legal system is. He has truly shown me how scary the mob mentality can be

Biggest lol yet

Because their isnt a mob on here trying to say that a man with his DNA in a womans panties, police photos of her injuries, and his own lawyer not confirming that the sex was consenual, is wanting it to just go away

He should be arrested and let the courts decide, just like every other man in this same predicament. Thats not mob mentality
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:24 pm to
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Because their isnt a mob on here trying to say that a man with his DNA in a womans panties, police photos of her injuries, and his own lawyer not confirming that the sex was consenual, is wanting it to just go away He should be arrested and let the courts decide, just like every other man in this same predicament. Thats not mob mentality
There are some on here that have been weighing both sides of the story. You have simply been taking everything that came from the defense says as absolute fact and absolutely dismissing anything I'm favor of the defense. Don't claim you are trying to seek justice
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

I know this sounds terrible and harsh, but when it comes to rape accusations against athletes my first thought is the accusation is bs. ...

-lsupride87

I think I'm thankful for a legal system, too.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:27 pm to
When it comes to high profile athlete cases prove me wrong. I also said my first thought. First. Thought. I have said multiple things in this thread that both make the accuser and accused look bad.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:29 pm to
I think the quote speaks for itself. I can understand you wanting to distance yourself from it at this point.
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Link?


There is no link I can post on here that doesn't have the accuser's name on it. You'll have to look that one up yourself.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96699 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:31 pm to
quote:

I think the quote speaks for itself. I can understand you wanting to distance yourself from it at this point.
I won't distance myself from it at all. When it comes to cases against high profile athletes my gut reaction is bs. It is just me playing the percentages. But I fully think that everything should be done to investigate the charge
This post was edited on 11/22/13 at 10:32 pm
Posted by TC16
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2531 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

He should be arrested and let the courts decide, just like every other man in this same predicament.


I have said for a while now that this will most probably be the end result. I just find it strange that with DNA confirmation and access to police and medical reports (to confirm if bruises, etc. was found on the night of the accuser) Meggs has not charged Winston yet.

Maybe I'm wrong but DNA confirmation + physical signs of rape (bruises, etc) = Immediate arrest
This post was edited on 11/22/13 at 10:35 pm
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:36 pm to
Question.... Do you have any proof of the percentages?? Because I think you may be wrong with the whole percentage thing.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:38 pm to
Eh. It's been just a week. In a case as high-profile as this, they're dotting i's and crossing t's (he said hopefully). I think, especially given that the investigation was stalled out (for whatever reason), a couple of weeks isn't really moving slowly.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

It is just me playing the percentages.

What percentages are you playing?
Posted by Hater Bait
Tuscaloosa & Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2012
2872 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Another lucky break for bama


I hope that's a joke. This is real life.

This is more important than a football game.

Get a grip, motherfricker.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23836 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

Get a grip, motherfricker.
Some of them can't. They can't see the tragedy of it all, but only that the one hope of beating Bama is slipping away.
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