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re: Didn't really see any coaching errors in the game

Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:01 pm to
Posted by Da #1 Stunna
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:01 pm to
Giving it to Copeland in the 1st place is a mistake when you have a horse like Jeremy Hill on your team. Hill will be picked in the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft and play on Sundays. Copeland might make a team and bounce around the league a while, but he has no running skills other than straight ahead steamrolling people. So yes, that in itself was a critical coaching error.

The defense was awful. No rush. Can't come close to stopping the run. LB's nonexistent. DB's vulnerable due to lack of rush. They have been exposed.

I see A&M hanging 50 on us with this defense.
Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:04 pm to
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I don't totally blame him for this loss.
it was stupid to go for it on 4th & 13. miles should have took the 3 points. you still had 9 min left. if it were 4th & 4,5 I can see going for it, but not 13. miles again sitting somebody because of a fumble is dumb. make him run sprints or carry a football all week through class. don't take him out for a fumble.
Posted by NeverRains
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
3010 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:04 pm to
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Who called the play to give it to a fullback coming off of a concussion when we had a RB running well on the drive?


Yeah, Hill up the middle would have definitely gotten you a touchdown. How may times have we seen that same stupid goal-line play for and gotten pissed over it?
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22406 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:06 pm to
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Who called the play to give it to a fullback coming off of a concussion when we had a RB running well on the drive?


I wasn't going to bring it up, but since you all have, I will.

I really don't have a problem with the play call, and it obviously would have been successful.

What I question is why 44 and not 43? Neighbors is from Bama with a family tradition there. The dad, who does radio, was quoted as saying no Neighbors have scored a TD in a college game ever.

Neighbors starts the game, as he has the last two, and is more than capable of running that play. Would have been just as apropos as the jump pass from JJ against FL IMO.

Does anyone actually think the flea flicker Bama ran that was intended for Kenny Bell just a coincidence?

I don't.
Posted by s_i5
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:08 pm to
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And your boss is responsible for your shitty work performance. That doesn't change then fact you are inept and worthless. Assuming you have a job

You can't shift accountability around to better your argument


So LSU players are inept and worthless. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure the players will love your analogy.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24322 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:17 pm to
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Yeah, Hill up the middle would have definitely gotten you a touchdown. How may times have we seen that same stupid goal-line play for and gotten pissed over it?


Well, he ran right up the middle for a 3-yard TD a quarter later to put us ahead so I'd go with the guy that had 12 TDs and a 7+ ypc average going into the game.

Look, the guy shouldn't have fumbled, but why mess around with him when you have Hill and you're playing Bama? That's all I'm saying.
Posted by latiger89
Member since Sep 2006
448 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:17 pm to
JC's is your best blocking fullback. You throw him a bone a couple times a game and this time he drops it. You bench your best blocker for fumbling WTF!!!!! Did you see the missed blocks by Neighbors!!! Miles is a moron!!! And I guess he is saving Hill for the NFL!!!! Let's not forget Chaves and his defense. Chaves needs calling out, they are horrible, Jalin Mills looks like Hookfin reincarnated lmao!!!! Yea the coaches are responsible!!!!
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:29 pm to
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Didn't really see any coaching errors in the game


I think we needed to throw it more. The defense was what it had been all year. The running game looked good the first couple of drives, but after that it was essentially shut down. Not saying to completely abandon it but if there was one area of Bama's D to try and exploit it was the secondary. 23 passes just doesn't cut it. After UGA, I think the prevailing attitude should have been, we're just going to have to get into track meets with teams and hope that it is enough. Beginning with UF, we started playing offense as if we had a good defense, which was fool's gold because of UF's shitty offense. That's one thing about A&M...they recognize they have a shitty defense so they play offense accordingly.
Posted by LSU6969
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Jun 2008
1145 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:35 pm to
Could you please include #28 in the players on defense that piss you off.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22860 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:35 pm to
We haven't had any major coaching issues IMO in any of our losses unless we are talking about debatable personnel opinions of the defense.

UGA:
UGA had a legit offense before injury. Our defense has been average all year. Also OBJ fumbles a punt return and UGA's kicker has phenomenal range.

Ole Miss:
Mettenberger basically killed three drives on just horrible decision making. Again our defense is not good.

Bama:
Great call giving it to the FB who has ran the ball plenty enough to know to secure the ball.
Horrible communication error on the fumbled snap by Mettenberger.
Again defense isn't that good; however, if we eliminate that 10 pt swing it would have probably been a completely different game if we had a 10 point lead after our first possession of the second half.

We lost too many young experiences players last season on defense. The other guys just aren't there yet. We have had some bad errors by some offensive players that we couldn't afford with our current defense and being on the road.

Our fan base loves to pile on Miles.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24322 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:51 pm to
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Great call giving it to the FB who has ran the ball plenty enough to know to secure the ball.


He's a senior with less than 40 carries in his career. He's not really used to carrying the rock.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:00 pm to
Tend to agree. The fake punt seemed obvious at the time, even before the time out was called. Perhaps coaches overlooked that?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10124 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:01 pm to
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Who called the play to give it to a fullback coming off of a concussion when we had a RB running well on the drive?
Bad play- had to be CLM's call
Posted by thetruth2006
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2005
330 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:05 pm to
Not playing safe to guard against a fake punt on Bama's 4th and short at midfield in the 3rd quarter with score tied at 17. After the time out to preserve the 4th and short, I even saw it coming and I'm not qualified to coach pee wee FB. Gary Danielson saw it coming. LSU coaches did not.

Bama's conversion for 1st down ended up as the turning point in the game after which Bama never looked back.

I'd call that a pretty big coaching error.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22860 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:06 pm to
They were in a safe formation waiting for a fake. Bama still got it. Was a nice play design.

You had guys playing off the line waiting for them to do something. Obviously you put the returner back just in case they do punt it.
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24322 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:10 pm to
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Bad play- had to be CLM's call


I didn't say who called it. You said that. But I do put it on the coaching because one of the coaches called it and they went through with it.
Posted by thetruth2006
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2005
330 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:19 pm to
Pretty sure even Saban said otherwise in on-field interview post-game. But doesn't matter now. Was a huge play and marked the turning point in the game.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10506 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:23 pm to
Systemic issues with tackling is a coaching issue.

Continual confusion in the defensive backfield is coaching.

Not being prepared for the fake punt is a coaching error. It wasn't like Bama just got it.

Running Hill 3 times in the second half was coaching errors.

refusing to adjust is coaching errors.

Plenty of errors were made last night, but they were all small errors that added up and not one big blunder like stupid fake FGs, not using a TO, or wasting TOs.

In the end, it was a well coached game on offense for 2 quarters and on defense for 1 quarter by LSU.
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Member since Jan 2010
5016 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:26 pm to
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How does our veteran O-line never show up for the Bama game and let Mettenberger get sacked four times?



Coaching is your answer. LSU I line has regressed

Now compare that to a bama oline that gave up sack like hot cakes and now dominates trenches.

Follow up question: when is the last time you saw an LSU team finish a season, general performance wise, stronger than it started?
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 11:28 pm
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 11:27 pm to
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So LSU players are inept and worthless. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure the players will love your analogy.


You damn people

I am in no way saying that. I was directly calling out that 1999 turdbag. frick it Nevermind
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