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re: Since Les has been here, how many times has LSU not been ready to play Bama?
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:07 pm to evil cockroach
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:07 pm to evil cockroach
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you're right, this game will not be a blow out, it will be close, but the Tide will still win
i think this is a logical outcome to predict. just think, the crappy LSU team will hang in there with the greatest team ever. by reading this board, sounds to me that LSU will lose by around 40.
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:17 pm to Springlake Tiger
You guys sure are going to great lengths to convince yourselves of something that has pretty much been a constant since 2008. I have no doubt that LSU will put together their most complete performance of the year against Bama. It happens every year, barring 1/9 of course. I do think LSU has fallen behind a little though, which is quite evident reading this board. Ya'll better hope Mett plays damn near perfect, or you are able to force some turnovers, because the one constant from years past that is missing from this game is an elite LSU defense, and Alabama can carve up a weak secondary this year.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:35 pm to bamasgot13
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Dude. LSU was down 14-3 at the half and 14-10 going into the 4th. LSU was definitely the better team for the first 13 minutes of the 4th qtr, but to say they were better for 58 minutes is a bit of revisionist history.
Maybe, but it's also revisionist history to say that LSU was getting blown out at any time during the game. LSU ended up with 50 more rushing yards and 50 more passing yards, even after McCarron's 70+ yard drive to win. Had LSU gotten the first down at the end, the stats would have been very lopsided in LSU's favor. Additionally, Alabama essentially only made one mistake (Yeldon's fumble) while LSU made many (Copeland's PF, the Warecat, the fake FG).
As to the GOTC1, a lot of Alabama fans will point to Alabama's advantage in overall yardage as dominance, however they never point out that LSU had a 50 yard advantage in rushing (holding Richardson as a non-factor) and actually had snaps in the red zone, which Alabama didn't. If Ware had bounced outside and scored a TD before the end of the first half, it would have only added 2 yards to the totals, but it would have changed the narrative of the whole game. As it was, clearly LSU was the stronger team by the time the game went into OT.
And, who knows what would have happened in the momentum department had Jefferson found a wide open Deangelo Peterson in the third qtr (on an eventual completion to Beckham) of the BCSNCG to make it 12-7. But, "Could-a, would-a should-a".
I think the Tigers will be ready.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:42 pm to Springlake Tiger
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Hey man, I am giving Bama credit for coming through when it mattered, but LSU outplayed Bama that game on offense and defense. Same can be said about the 2011 regular season matchup. I think Bama outplayed LSU, but LSU won on the scoreboard.
The 2012 game was like a tale of two halves. Bama controlled the first half and LSU started dominating the 2nd half and looked like they were going to cruise to victory. But LSU didn't dominate the whole game.
The 2011 Game of the Century is not remembered that accurately by most fans. LSU outrushed Bama and held them to under 100 yards rushing for the game. When it comes to Bama and LSU, everybody knows that rushing is one of the most important stats. Bama passed for more yards and ended up with 50+ more yards of total offense. However, the time of possession only differed by less than 15 seconds for the game and LSU made it into the red zone three times to Bama's one (I think the closest Bama came to the end zone was the 17-yard-line). LSU made it to Bama's 2-yard-line in the first half, but ran out of time and had to kick a FG on 3rd down. And LSU dominated in OT driving them back 10 yards while LSU kicked another FG on 3rd down inside Bama's 10.
Bama tried some long FG's and missed some (they made long one and had another blocked). LSU earned that W.
As for the first year that Saban and Miles met - a lot was on the line. LSU was chasing a title, and at the time we met, both teams only had one OT loss in the SEC to east teams. Also, it was one the most hyped games I can remember with LSU wanting to beat Saban bad in his first year at Bama. It was an electric environment and an exciting game.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:47 pm to Placebeaux
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How can you not be ready to play for the NATIONAL frickING CHAMPIONSHIP?!?!?!?!
Its not like they didnt prepare, or werent ready. Bama was just better that day.
How can you not win ur division and still get a rematch for the title game? What other team has done that? none.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:48 pm to Springlake Tiger
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LSU facing #1 Bama again and was the better team for 58 minutes
So the 2nd half lasts 60 minutes? I hope that's it and you didn't forget about the 14-3 lead at the half. And yes, they were kicking our tail that first half.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 10/28/13 at 1:52 pm to Mxylplyx
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You guys sure are going to great lengths to convince yourselves of something that has pretty much been a constant since 2008. I have no doubt that LSU will put together their most complete performance of the year against Bama. It happens every year, barring 1/9 of course. I do think LSU has fallen behind a little though, which is quite evident reading this board. Ya'll better hope Mett plays damn near perfect, or you are able to force some turnovers, because the one constant from years past that is missing from this game is an elite LSU defense, and Alabama can carve up a weak secondary this year.
I think the angst this year is also compounded by the fact that the new talent on the D hasn't matched the talent we lost. In the meantime, Bama seems to be reloading more successfully. It is what it is.
Many nega-tigers trot out the "Les is only winning because we have more talent than anybody else". Well, I'm not the most vigilant recruiting follower, but it seems to me that Bama has rolled up better recruiting hauls in each of the last four years. So, if there is anybody that has an edge in raw talent, it's Alabama, not us. But you never hear "Saban is only winning because of the talent".
People have a narrative in their mind about the relative coaching talents of Saban and Miles, and they will not let go of them.
We'll be ready. It may not be enough, but we'll be ready.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:06 pm to dgnx6
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Its not like they didnt prepare, or werent ready.
It most assuredly was. They did not fully prepare. The staff obviously did not account for any changes in Bama's game plan. The thought seemed to be "we won by doing x when they could not do y. We will prepare by practicing x." There never seemed to be a question as to whether Saban would conceivably, just perhaps, get his team to practice y.
It's not like Saban out coached Miles in that game by practicing quantum physics.
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How can you not win ur division and still get a rematch for the title game? What other team has done that? none.
True, I agree 100%. Does not change the fact that we laid a steaming pile of festering dog shite in that game.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:08 pm to Thorny
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People have a narrative in their mind about the relative coaching talents of Saban and Miles, and they will not let go of them.
In all fairness, it's because the narrative is true. Saban is a better coach than Miles. It is what it is.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:09 pm to Placebeaux
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How can you not be ready to play for the NATIONAL frickING CHAMPIONSHIP?!?!?!?!
Worthy question.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:24 pm to dgnx6
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Its not like they didnt prepare, or werent ready. Bama was just better that day.
What? Talk about revisionist history.
MILES QUIT!
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:37 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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The 2011 Game of the Century is not remembered that accurately by most fans
Agree completely. The memory of that game depends on your team preference.
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LSU made it into the red zone three times to Bama's one
LSU was in the red zone three times. One was after and INT put the O there and a second time was when they started 5 yards outside of the red zone in OT.
The reality is that both Defenses were dominant that day. LSU had 3 scoring opportunities and made all 3 FGs. Bama had 6 scoring opportunities and went 2-6 on FGs (LSU did block one, but before someone says they were outside of the kicker's range, he has made several from longer than those misses).
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LSU earned that W
Agree. They survived to win. Bama didn't. That was a game of survival. The game on 1/9 was not a survival game. Bama proved to be the better team that night.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:38 pm to SnowTigrrr
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So the 2nd half lasts 60 minutes? I hope that's it and you didn't forget about the 14-3 lead at the half. And yes, they were kicking our tail that first half.
Bama won the game. Period.
LSU outplayed Bama in the first quarter, third quarter, and 13 minutes of the 4th quarter. Bama only outplayed LSU in the 2nd. It doesn't matter, Bama won the fricking game. You idiots are not getting my point. LSU WILL BE IN THIS frickING GAME. Bama may win, but it will not be a fricking blowout. That is the extent of this thread, it will be a good game, the toughest game of Bama's season up to this point. That should be enough to get the fan base excited. Back the fricking team if you are a fan. If not, be a little bitch and whine. SnowTigrrr, this rant wasn't at you, just at all the little bitches in this thread.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:42 pm to Springlake Tiger
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2011: Looking back on it, Bama was the better team, but the LSU team went in there and gutted it out.
destroys all the others combined.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:51 pm to dgnx6
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How can you not win ur division and still get a rematch for the title game? What other team has done that? none.
this!!! shouldn't even have had to play these peckerwoods again.....thx fkin Okie st.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 2:52 pm to RedTigerRulz
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thx Okie st.
Ironic ain't it.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:01 pm to Springlake Tiger
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Let me answer that for you, ONE time. That is it ONCE.
Agree wholeheartedly. For the record again LSU wins 36-34 on a two point conversion.
Unfortunately, Bama will remain undefeated as only Bama can beat Bama.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:12 pm to theunknownknight
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Ironic ain't it.
dripping with it....yeah..
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:13 pm to Springlake Tiger
Les usually has his teams ready to play from game to game for the most part. His problems have come in momentary lapses in judgement and clock management issues. He has also made bad decisions related to loyolty and hiring of coordinators.
Posted on 10/28/13 at 3:15 pm to Mo Jeaux
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At least that one time was for an unimportant game that did not mean anything.
When was the last time LSU played Alabama in a game that wasn't important? I think you'd have to go back to 2005 to find a LSU/Bama game that didn't have BCS implications
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