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Was Warren Sapp Really THAT Good?

Posted on 10/26/13 at 11:32 am
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/26/13 at 11:32 am
He's a first ballot Hall of Famer and now they're doing a "Football Life" about him.

But come on. He was a VERY dominant player in his time. But he might have been the third best player of that Buccaneer defense. I would say second, but Barber and Lynch aren't THAT far behind.

Derrick Brooks was the best player on that defense. Period. But he wasn't a big mouth attention whore and he isn't employee of the NFL Network. So he won't be "remembered" the way Sapp is. And that's a shame.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/26/13 at 11:33 am to
He was nothing without Booger.
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 11:34 am to
Well Warren Sapp is employed by NFL network

And ETA: personality is a big part of it
This post was edited on 10/26/13 at 11:35 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30530 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 11:35 am to
Correct

His "rivalry" with Favre garnered him attention. And, let's face it, most sportswriters and broadcasters prefer a good quote more than sterling play.


(Sapp was great, but nowhere near an all-time elite)
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/26/13 at 11:46 am to
I couldn't care less about him getting a "Football Life" because it'll probably be good tv. But the people claiming he's in the discussion for best DT ever can gtfo.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Derrick Brooks was the best player on that defense. Period.


Bull...you don't understand football then.

Under the Bucs scheme the Tampa 2 required dominant inside presence to allow Brooks the open space to do his thing.

Sapp made that defense go. He was the absolute key to Monte Kiffin's defense. He was the anchor.

From 1995-2003, he averaged nearly 50 solo tackles and 8.5 sacks per 16 games - extraordinary numbers for an interior defensive lineman.

"When the nose tackle engages the center, the weak side backer is free to flow to the ball after ensuring that his gap (the weak side center-guard gap, or A gap) isn't threatened.

With the SLB and MLB dealing with potential blocks from the TE, FB and an OL, the WLB will be in position to make a lot of plays.

Ballcarriers are "spilled" toward the WLB.

Dungy and Kiffin's philosophy preaches a turn back or spilling concept in run support. That is, a defender taking on a block knows where his most likely help will be and turns or spills the ballcarrier in that direction. Since the WLB is often free in an under front, he's frequently the teammate to whom the running back gets sent."

Dungy's scheme made Derrick Brooks more than it made Sapp - instead, Sapp made the scheme work.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279497 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 12:25 pm to
they did a football life on Revis and he isnt even retired yet
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/26/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Derrick Brooks was the best player on that defense. Period. But he wasn't a big mouth attention whore and he isn't employee of the NFL Network. So he won't be "remembered" the way Sapp is. And that's a shame.


Most people, at least ones who know football, know he's one of the better linebackers to play the game. He'll get his due.

quote:

But he might have been the third best player of that Buccaneer defense


IMO that's more a statement on just how good that defense was under Kiffin then it is about whether Sapp himself was good. Sapp was a very good player, but he's going to be more intriguing/entertaining to some because of his personality.
Posted by lsutigerfan1976
Slidell, LA
Member since Nov 2009
2358 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Was Warren Sapp Really THAT Good?


Does a bear s**t in the woods, and wipe his arse with a rabbit?!?!
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
11634 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 1:12 pm to
Sapp is a dick, but a great DT. I wish he were overrated.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76821 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 1:19 pm to
Sapp was pretty damn good, had a personality, and could dunk a basketball. fwiw
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Was Warren Sapp Really THAT Good?
IMO, yes. He was that good. All-time great DT, one of the best ever.
Posted by Bengalroar
Member since Aug 2013
887 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Derrick Brooks was the best player on that defense.
You got that backwards. Sapp made that whole defense go. When one man can get constant pressure, it makes everything easier behind him. If you believe DB was better, you simply don't understand football. A qb with time doesn't make those mistakes that allowed db to get interceptions and pickup fumbles that others caused. I'm guessing the op just goes by stats.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 2:49 pm to
I don't think he was that great. He played absolutely lights out for a short time, was okay for half his career, and dreadful the remainder.

Does he deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? I suppose, but first ballot? I don't think so.
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