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Posted on 9/24/13 at 11:58 am to Ice Cream Sammich
I'm asking this question because I don't know but I'm pretty certain someone here will.
With a gun that has a barrel under 16" AND a suppressor, would that weapon need two stamps?
Mung, you have a trust on a class 3 weapon so someone other than you (if it is your gun) can shoot the gun. Without the trust on the person on the stamp would be able to shoot or have possession of the gun.
With a gun that has a barrel under 16" AND a suppressor, would that weapon need two stamps?
Mung, you have a trust on a class 3 weapon so someone other than you (if it is your gun) can shoot the gun. Without the trust on the person on the stamp would be able to shoot or have possession of the gun.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:02 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
true, i'm merely a hunter who sees no need for such. Got 13 guns and not one AR/SKS/AK. Thank God you and your brethren are here to protect us from the zombie apocalypse/Russian invasion/UN incursion with these class 3 weapons.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:23 pm to Mung
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Got 13 guns and not one AR/SKS/AK.
Well, good for you.
ETA: I have an AR and an AK. Never killed anyone or anything with either but I do very much enjoy taking them out to just shoot with them. My 7 loves shooting the AR as well.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:36 pm to bbvdd
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With a gun that has a barrel under 16" AND a suppressor, would that weapon need two stamps?
Yes, unless it has the suppressor permanently attached. Then you only need one for the suppressor (assuming overall barrel length would then be at least 16").
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 12:48 pm to Mung
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true, i'm merely a hunter who sees no need for such.
Can't stand when that word is used...
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:17 pm to bbvdd
The only has to be a fixed 16". That can be a combo of many different things but has to be fixed. I believe DD makes a Sbr with a fixed suppressor but don't quote me on that. Then it would only require one stamp.
Mung, you have 13 guns (subtle brag?) and you talk about needs vs wants. Please tell me why you need 13 guns. You're probably just some hick that thinks more guns will distract others from your small manhood.
Am I doing this right?
Mung, you have 13 guns (subtle brag?) and you talk about needs vs wants. Please tell me why you need 13 guns. You're probably just some hick that thinks more guns will distract others from your small manhood.
Am I doing this right?
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:38 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
quote:
Am I doing this right?
:slowclap:
Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:54 pm to bapple
I'll piggy back on this thread so not to clutter the OB with AR threads. Any recs on an AR platform rifle that has a range ~500 yards for deer hunting? I was looking at the 6.5 Grendel, but I was hoping there would be something a bit more common than that.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:18 pm to bbvdd
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AR10 That's it.
+1
The AR10 can be chambered in any cartridge that uses a 308 parent case. Some examples are 260 Remington, 7mm-08, 22-250, etc.
If you want to stick with an AR15 platform, 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, and probably the most common, 300blk, should be your main choices.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:29 pm to bapple
I originally was looking at the AR-10/DPMS .308, but I have quite a few AR-15 lowers to work with. Maybe I could find someone to trade 1 or 2 AR-15 lowers for a DPMS .308.
ETA: As for 300 AAC, I'll have a few of those eventually, starting with pistols.
ETA: As for 300 AAC, I'll have a few of those eventually, starting with pistols.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:38 pm to colorchangintiger
I'm working on a 6.8spc with 20 in barrels but I don't know how much energy it will have at 500yds.
An AR-10 cost about 2x-3x as much as an AR-15
An AR-10 cost about 2x-3x as much as an AR-15
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:40 pm to colorchangintiger
In my opinion it in unsportsmanlike to shoot deer at 500yds. Just my 2cents
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:53 pm to civiltiger07
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In my opinion it in unsportsmanlike to shoot deer at 500yds
If you have a weapon capable of the shot and you have practiced the shot enough, then I don't think that.
But that would have to be very little to no wind.
I personally would not take that shot simply because that is not a shot that I practice enough to feel comfortable with.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 2:55 pm to civiltiger07
Yeah, about the max sight lines where I hunt is 350 yards. Just want something that is pretty precise much further out.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:07 pm to bbvdd
The margin for error at that distance is so small I don't view a 500yd shot on a deer as good sportsmanship. Put in the work to get the deer closer. All it takes is a slight twitch and you lame a deer instead of a clean kill. Especially when you consider you are shooting with a cold bore.
However if you are just wanting a deer rifle that you can take the range and punch holes at 500yds that is completely different story. Yea 350yds is about my limit that I would feel comfortable taking a shot on a deer.
However if you are just wanting a deer rifle that you can take the range and punch holes at 500yds that is completely different story. Yea 350yds is about my limit that I would feel comfortable taking a shot on a deer.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:24 pm to bapple
300 win mag AR. My next silly toy.
Posted on 9/24/13 at 3:36 pm to Mung
NFA Trusts are most often encouraged to avoid the required CLEO sign-off on the transaction, it does not avoid any other requirement, but in some jurisdictions the CLEO for political reasons refuse to sign off, so it is helpful in that regard. It also facilitates the use by "Trustees" where the usage by a non-owner of a registered item would violate federal law, among other things, depending on the situation.
As to the use of trusts in estate planning, they are in fact very useful, but limited as are all legal strategies. They work if properly done to avoid probate, but are often neglected or lack follow-through, that is not always, even often the lawyers fault in my experience. They are much more cost-effective than a Will if the probate estate is of much over a couple hundred thousand dollars (depending on the state you are in). But, this has little to do with NFA trusts.
As to the use of trusts in estate planning, they are in fact very useful, but limited as are all legal strategies. They work if properly done to avoid probate, but are often neglected or lack follow-through, that is not always, even often the lawyers fault in my experience. They are much more cost-effective than a Will if the probate estate is of much over a couple hundred thousand dollars (depending on the state you are in). But, this has little to do with NFA trusts.
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