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Does any coach deserve some credit for sending OBJ out to return FG?
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:46 am
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:46 am
Just wondering what y'all think...personally I think Les might've had a hunch and sent him out to field the miss, but I know the Rant will never allow Les to be credited with doing ANYTHING smart, so....who, then- the special teams coach?
It's obvious from the result that we caught them off-guard; the field-goal team can't spend too much time practicing kick coverage. I mean, really, how common is it to even have anyone deep in case a FG try comes up short?
It's obvious from the result that we caught them off-guard; the field-goal team can't spend too much time practicing kick coverage. I mean, really, how common is it to even have anyone deep in case a FG try comes up short?
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:48 am to StadiumDormRat'72
CLM credited the special teams coach with "recognizing the opportunity".
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:50 am to StadiumDormRat'72
No, the coaches only matter when something bad happens
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:51 am to ed3303
I would think you would always want someone back there on a Field Goal attempt. You never know when it is going to be short or partially blocked. Plus usually the kicking team is just standing around looking at the kick to see if it is good. I think more teams will be paying attention now on Field Goal Attempts!!
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:53 am to StadiumDormRat'72
quote:What happened?
Does any coach deserve some credit for sending OBJ out to return FG?
Posted on 9/12/13 at 6:56 am to ForeverLSU02
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What happened?
Not sure if serious.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:08 am to Malaysian Tiger
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I would think you would always want someone back there on a Field Goal attempt. You never know when it is going to be short or partially blocked. Plus usually the kicking team is just standing around looking at the kick to see if it is good. I think more teams will be paying attention now on Field Goal Attempts!!
In most cases it is better to let the ball hit the ground on a miss than to try to return it. OBJ got lucky on that return and was able to get a touchdown against their slow kicking line, but he very well could have been tackled before he got back to the line of scrimmage where we would have taken over.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:12 am to StadiumDormRat'72
I've always said you need to send a guy back there past 50 yards. The coach needs to have that automatically in Beckhams head. He deserves credit for trying it. Most people never try. Think of all the short kicks that could have been.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:17 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Coach Miles said that was the Special Teams coach's call. He sent in OBJ to jump up and block the ball just in case it was close to the cross bar. Odell said in an interview that he saw it was short so he caught it
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:18 am to StadiumDormRat'72
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the field-goal team can't spend too much time practicing kick coverage
Um, I would think a number of them do exactly that. Probably everyone except the linemen play on kickoff and punt returns.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 7:19 am
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:21 am to foshizzle
You want someone back there in case they try and punt it and pin you deep. In that case, you can return it and it forces there hand to either actually kick the thing or call TO and try plan B.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:24 am to StadiumDormRat'72
Special teams coach T-Mac told miles they liked to try long field goals during game prep week. So they had it planned to send OBJ back deep if they attempted.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:25 am to LSUfan4444
No, but I'm sure there would have been plenty to criticize Miles had OBJ gotten hurt trying to return a field goal when the game was well out of hand.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:26 am to LSUfan4444
DBeaux225:
illegal. ODB would have had to CATCH the ball cleanly in a "block" situation.
This. The ST Coach told Odell to look and see if the OLs were just standing around watching the kick (in the event the FG was tried) and if so...to use his judgement as to returning.
It was an awesome play and well coached.
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He sent in OBJ to jump up and block the ball just in case it was close to the cross bar.
illegal. ODB would have had to CATCH the ball cleanly in a "block" situation.
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You want someone back there in case they try and punt it and pin you deep. In that case, you can return it and it forces there hand to either actually kick the thing or call TO and try plan B.
This. The ST Coach told Odell to look and see if the OLs were just standing around watching the kick (in the event the FG was tried) and if so...to use his judgement as to returning.
It was an awesome play and well coached.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:29 am to StadiumDormRat'72
quote:
Just wondering what y'all think...personally I think Les might've had a hunch and sent him out to field the miss, but I know the Rant will never allow Les to be credited with doing ANYTHING smart, so....who, then- the special teams coach?
It's obvious from the result that we caught them off-guard; the field-goal team can't spend too much time practicing kick coverage. I mean, really, how common is it to even have anyone deep in case a FG try comes up short?
Of course the coaches deserve credit.
But, let's not pretend like this is unprecedented.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:30 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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illegal. ODB would have had to CATCH the ball cleanly in a "block" situation.
Peoples started running with the whole "he was sent in to block it" thing on the rant all week and I just let them run away with it.
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 7:31 am
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:39 am to LSUFrosty
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OBJ got lucky on that return
Nonsense. Why not force less low% tries and different FG pkgs that aren't so heavy?
My post from german thread.
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Actually might be a nice constraint play for 45+.
Cat and mouse for coaches.
Do I want to protect the kick or defend the runback? What package will I field?
Aw hell, just punt the damn ball!
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:42 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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illegal. ODB would have had to CATCH the ball cleanly in a "block" situation.
This is from the interview in The Advocate about that play:
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Funny thing is, Beckham was sent back there with a mind to being the last line of defense against a fake or to try to knock the ball down if it looked like it was just going to nudge over the crossbar. That’s legal, if not exactly sporting, considering LSU led 49-17 at the time.
quote:. “But it ended up working out for the better.”
“I was hoping it would go just above the crossbar so I could jump up and block it,” Beckham said
The plan was to block it according to Beckham.
LINK
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 7:56 am
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:46 am to DBeaux225
quote:I think Miles has final word, but I doubt there was any plan to bat ball and that was just OB talking.
Miles said that was the Special Teams coach's call. He sent in OBJ to jump up and block the ball just in case it was close to the cross bar.
Posted on 9/12/13 at 7:48 am to ed3303
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CLM credited the special teams coach with "recognizing the opportunity".
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