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Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:46 am to okietiger
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And you made fun of my list??
No, I said the kemba walker ranking was weird. My list is fine. If you have a problem with it maybe say it.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:47 am to okietiger
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And I think Walker is better than people give him credit for.
he's a chucker with an inconsistent 3 point shot (as of now). he was also relied upon heavily on a terrible team
you see anybody putting monta ellis in the top 10?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:47 am to RTR America
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If John Wall plays like he did the last month or so of last season he may be in the top 5 this time next year
absolutely
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:48 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Didn't Philly lead the league in long 2s attempted or something?
frick doug collins
just watch his PER climb with a modern offensive philosophy
i say this a a huge FBB fan of holiday's and not a pels fan
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:49 am to tgr4ever
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Didn't Philly lead the league in long 2s attempted or something?
yes, and i believe they were all-time bad in terms of driving to the hoop
basically doug collins had the worse offensive plan in NBA history, considering the contemporary offense of his time
he did everything wrong. long 2s and no driving, when the NBA today is all pick/roll driving and 3s
it's almost assured that holiday will drive more and shoot more 3s/less long 2s, which alone will make his PER rise a good bit (his overall stats may go down, however, due to evans/gordon. PER is about efficiency)
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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absolutely
If he starts to become consistent with his midrange game.....watch out
47 pt game againts my Grizzlies
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:51 am to tiggerthetooth
Dwell at #2? 
Midget Nate outplayed him in the Bulls Nets series
Midget Nate outplayed him in the Bulls Nets series
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 11:52 am
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:54 am to RTR America
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If he starts to become consistent with his midrange game.....watch out
sheeyit. there were a bunch of jumpers in that clip that should have been 3s, and he fricked up taking the 18-20 footer
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:56 am to boXerrumble
All of these lists are garbage.
1. Cp3
2. Westbrook
3. Rondo
4. Parker
5. Rose
6. Irving
7. Curry
8. Wall
9. Jrue
10. Deron
1. Cp3
2. Westbrook
3. Rondo
4. Parker
5. Rose
6. Irving
7. Curry
8. Wall
9. Jrue
10. Deron
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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you see anybody putting monta ellis in the top 10?
Kemba has zero help on what is the worst team in the NBA.
And you're not considering Ellis a PG are you?
I do get your point though.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 11:59 am to okietiger
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Kemba has zero help on what is the worst team in the NBA.
henderson isn't terrible (but he was injured for part of last year) offensively
and the fact that he had no help increased his usage, which is what i've said over and over
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And you're not considering Ellis a PG are you?
he's as much of a point guard as walker. both are chuckers who get assists off drives
ellis has played the point for the vast majority of his career. even with curry in GS, curry would often play the 2
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:00 pm to Clemens
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All of these lists are garbage.
After seeing your list this is pretty damn ironic
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Valid points.
I probably should have included with Jrue or Lawson in that list and dropped Walker.
I probably should have included with Jrue or Lawson in that list and dropped Walker.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:06 pm to okietiger
guys like ellis and walker do have lots of value, but that value, in my eyes, is limited to the following:
1. high-usage chucker on a bad offensive team
2. bench sparkplug scorer
there is nothing wrong with either role (and admittedly, walker can improve still, while we know what ellis is), but i think that removes them from consideration from a top 10 list, especially when there are so many good point guards who provide more today. this is a golden era of PGs
PGs in the NBA today are like RBs in the NFL
1. high-usage chucker on a bad offensive team
2. bench sparkplug scorer
there is nothing wrong with either role (and admittedly, walker can improve still, while we know what ellis is), but i think that removes them from consideration from a top 10 list, especially when there are so many good point guards who provide more today. this is a golden era of PGs
PGs in the NBA today are like RBs in the NFL
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:07 pm to okietiger
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Valid points.
I probably should have included with Jrue or Lawson in that list and dropped Walker.
You have one of the better list I have seen, but I would move Rondo up a bit. His success in the playoffs compared to a few of the guys in front of him should give him a slight advantage.
I think it will be interesting to see how he performs with worse talent around him next year.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:08 pm to RTR America
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I think it will be interesting to see how he performs with worse talent around him next year.
his "selfish assists" will become a lot more scarce
it will be interesting, b/c he's shown (in the playoffs and prime time games) that he can destroy a defense with his scoring...he just often prefers not to
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:08 pm to boXerrumble
Can't believe Damian Lillard hasn't made a single list. That boy is a killer.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:10 pm to RTR America
While it's semi-unfair to Rondo to be honest, I do want to see how good he is without 2-3 future hall of famers to dish to you this year.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:12 pm to boXerrumble
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Dwell at #2?
Midget Nate outplayed him in the Bulls Nets series
Not really? What makes you think that?
D Will averaged 20 points, 8 assists, while shooting 40% from behind the arc. The only statistic that Nate Robinson technically beats D Will is TO, and its a 3 TO/game-2.7 TO/game comparison which is nothing, especially when D Will logged 7 more minutes a game.
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