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Panfish versus crickets
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:26 am
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:26 am
Local lake I fish at has a crazy amount of pan fish in it. I can't get them to bite on a beetle spin at all. I can run 10 different colors through a spot 10 different times each and not get a single bite. But put a phucking cricket on a hook and before the weight can sink it the bobber is running off.
I find crickets to be a pain in the arse to fish with! From having to go get them at the bait shop, to the large numbers you go through in a fishing trip, the fragile state of the bait, harder to handle, rebating time, them getting lose in the boat and setting up shop in there...etc.
So I ordered some Berkeley crickets but they haven't come in yet. The fish hit the live crickets so fast that I can't see how they will be able to tell the difference?
Also, I froze about 100 crickets and put them 20 to a little medicine bottle in the freezer. My thought is that I can just grab a bottle and throw it in the cooler when i walk out the door. Then i can hit the spot with a couple of crickets to get the smell/taste in the water and then move to the plastic after that.
So my questions are:
Anyone ever have any luck fishing with plastic crickets?
Anyone ever fish with frozen crickets?
Does anyone know of any type of "cricket spray" that might help the plastic?
I find crickets to be a pain in the arse to fish with! From having to go get them at the bait shop, to the large numbers you go through in a fishing trip, the fragile state of the bait, harder to handle, rebating time, them getting lose in the boat and setting up shop in there...etc.
So I ordered some Berkeley crickets but they haven't come in yet. The fish hit the live crickets so fast that I can't see how they will be able to tell the difference?
Also, I froze about 100 crickets and put them 20 to a little medicine bottle in the freezer. My thought is that I can just grab a bottle and throw it in the cooler when i walk out the door. Then i can hit the spot with a couple of crickets to get the smell/taste in the water and then move to the plastic after that.
So my questions are:
Anyone ever have any luck fishing with plastic crickets?
Anyone ever fish with frozen crickets?
Does anyone know of any type of "cricket spray" that might help the plastic?
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 5:56 am
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:48 am to StinkDog12
Have you tried a tube jig under a cork?
Posted on 7/16/13 at 5:54 am to Tino
I did but all I had on me at the time was a pack of white and a pack of black tubes. So I don't know if it was the color or the fact that they weren't interested in the tube set up? I'll take all of my different colors out there next time. I just had them in a different tackle bag that I didn't grab.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:38 am to StinkDog12
If you are looking for quick and easy baits you can try: shrimp, hot dogs, or corn
When they are biting that way one of the things I find works really well is a wet style fly tipped with shrimp under a cork. The smaller the fly the better if they are picky.
You can also try the gulp worms, crickets, leaches, etc...They make little panfish jars. I had some good luck tipping flies under a cork with the gulp worms.
To answer your original question. I never had any luck with the plastic crickets but then again I only tried a couple times.
When they are biting that way one of the things I find works really well is a wet style fly tipped with shrimp under a cork. The smaller the fly the better if they are picky.
You can also try the gulp worms, crickets, leaches, etc...They make little panfish jars. I had some good luck tipping flies under a cork with the gulp worms.
To answer your original question. I never had any luck with the plastic crickets but then again I only tried a couple times.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 6:39 am
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:40 am to StinkDog12
Get a fly rod. Rig it with a popping bug and tie a black bream killer behind it on a 2 foot leader. If that pond is as loaded as you say you will be pulling them in 2 at a time!
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:52 am to computerguy
quote:
looking for quick and easy
My reasoning is kind of 2-fold. I like to fish and when im fishing, i really dint mind using whatever they are biting on. But I've got two 2 year olds that I am trying to figure out a way that they can catch their own fish. Right now the only thing they can do is real in fish after I catch them/set the hook.
If I had some durable bait I could let them attempt to catch their own but with using live bait...I just spend all of our time rebating lines.
So my quest is to fid something that is durable enough that we can spend more time catching fish and less time baiting line.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:53 am to twogapper55
quote:
fly rod
That's an option for me...but not the kids.....I should have made my 1st post more clear.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 6:55 am to StinkDog12
On a side note....I found this pic while looking around. Thought it was funny. Fish either looks pissed or stoned.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 7:27 am to StinkDog12
chum up the water with bread crumbs. Bread on a hook
Posted on 7/16/13 at 7:34 am to StinkDog12
I've used the brown ones before, and caught quite a few bream on them. They don't hold up real well, though, and I went through a pack pretty quick. They hold up better than live FWIW
Posted on 7/16/13 at 7:34 am to StinkDog12
Try a jig under cork with a crappie bite on the hook.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 7:37 am
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:11 am to StinkDog12
quote:
Then i can hit the spot with a couple of crickets to get the smell/taste in the water and then move to the plastic after that.
This will not work. As soon as you change to artificial the bite will stop with bream.
The two best baits for bream are crickets and worms.
Worms hold up much better than crickets. You can catch 3-4 fish on one worm. But it takes longer to bait your hook and your hands get dirty quickly. Plus, I usually have to cut the worms in half b/c the ones I buy are to long.
Crickets can be put on a hook very quickly. It's very clean. But they are usually one cricket for one fish. If you like to whip your bait out there you can actually throw the cricket off before your hook hits the water.
Between the two I prefer crickets for bream. If there are catfish in the area I use worms b/c I often catch both fish while bream fishing.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:15 am to ctiger69
FYI, use an ultra light action spin cast rod and reel while bream fishing. The big bream feel like a 3-4 lb bass while using this setup.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:27 am to Slickback
quote:
Try a jig under cork with a crappie bite on the hook.
this
Posted on 7/16/13 at 8:48 am to StinkDog12
when I am in beds, I usually pinch all their little heads and kill em so I don't have to chase them around, you can just have a pile of em beside you.
Never tried any plastic crickets,
Never tried any plastic crickets,
Posted on 7/16/13 at 9:01 am to StinkDog12
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:31 am to StinkDog12
Plastic crickets will not work.
If you don't like real crickets, the answer is worms.
If you don't like real crickets, the answer is worms.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:43 am to StinkDog12
Fish is pissed that he fell for the lure.....LOL.
Posted on 7/16/13 at 10:44 am to StinkDog12
I love drowning crickets. Get a good cricket box and put half a potato in it and they'll keep for a while.
Eta: i've caught bream on gummy bears, sunflower seeds, and just about anything I have laying around when they are biting.
Eta: i've caught bream on gummy bears, sunflower seeds, and just about anything I have laying around when they are biting.
This post was edited on 7/16/13 at 10:46 am
Posted on 7/16/13 at 11:10 am to Dooshay
Best baits for panfish in the south IMHO
grass shrimp
brown crickets
earth worms
red wigglers
field crickets
grasshoppers
any other meat (original slim jims work and stay on a hook FOREVER)
but for fast fishing with kids without the troubles of live bait try a wet fly as mentioned above.
I use a small weighted cork,
with a small wet fly (scuds, midges, small wooly buggers), or unweighted baitkeeper hook with a a small soft plastic bait tied 18 -30 " below the cork.
Frequently the rate of fall is the key. Crickets sink slowly and so should your bait. So cast out, wait 3-5 seconds and pull the cork forward 6" and then wait again. Repeat and load the cooler.
grass shrimp
brown crickets
earth worms
red wigglers
field crickets
grasshoppers
any other meat (original slim jims work and stay on a hook FOREVER)
but for fast fishing with kids without the troubles of live bait try a wet fly as mentioned above.
I use a small weighted cork,
with a small wet fly (scuds, midges, small wooly buggers), or unweighted baitkeeper hook with a a small soft plastic bait tied 18 -30 " below the cork.
Frequently the rate of fall is the key. Crickets sink slowly and so should your bait. So cast out, wait 3-5 seconds and pull the cork forward 6" and then wait again. Repeat and load the cooler.
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