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re: NBA Age Limit

Posted on 7/7/13 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by mikelowery1911
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
896 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

quote:
Derrick Rose or Kevin Durant

Rose didn't make the all star team until their second year. Durant didn't make it until his third.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112414 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 2:34 pm to
So you can only be considered "impactful" or a good rookie if you make the Allstar game over well established vets?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 3:23 pm to
NBA has become a kiddy league. They def should go back to the old days and make these kids stay in college.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 3:50 pm to
I never like the arguments that act like outliers are the norm. We always hear about Kobe, Garnett, James, Howard etc, that came straight to the NBA and we just assume that "hey, it's a good thing, look at these guys". How many players do we not hear about that flopped miserably because of an early exit from College Basketball or going straight from HS?
This post was edited on 7/7/13 at 3:51 pm
Posted by mikelowery1911
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
896 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 3:51 pm to
quote:


So you can only be considered "impactful" or a good rookie if you make the Allstar game over well established vets?


No but is a gauge of how much you can come in and change the course of a franchise on day one.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75675 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 3:51 pm to
I'd be fine with the baseball system.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112414 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:02 pm to
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No but is a gauge of how much you can come in and change the course of a franchise on day one.


Its clearly a terrible gauge of that
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:04 pm to
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but based on the constitution and fairness, 18 should be the age limit.



It's a private business, they can set whatever terms they want to hire people.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71682 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Applying the college baseball rules will kill college basketball's relevance. They'll never do it.


Can't hurt college basketball any worse than the one and done rule. I know the NBA isn't under any obligation to care, but a baseball type system can't be any worse.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:09 pm to
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Can't hurt college basketball any worse than the one and done rule.


the 19 year old age limit has been a tremdous success for the NBA.

What needs to change for college basketball, is actual on the court rules.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83993 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

What needs to change for college basketball, is actual on the court rules.



Please, go on.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:11 pm to
The best players only going to college for one season is better for college basketball than the best players not going to college at all.

I think something needs to be done about the current system, but I don't think the baseball system will work for basketball.

Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

What needs to change for college basketball, is actual on the court rules.

If you're talking about shortening the shot clock, I agree.

Other than that, what could you possibly be talking about?
This post was edited on 7/7/13 at 4:12 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424836 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:16 pm to
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College baseball rules are the only ones that make sense at this point.

i'd hate to hurt guys like dion waiters, victor olidapo, otto porter, alex len, KCP, burke, harrison barnes, and terrence ross, have to wait another year just b/c people believe it would help them
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92877 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:17 pm to
If a player is good enough to play they should be able to...regardless of age.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424836 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:19 pm to
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How many players do we not hear about that flopped miserably because of an early exit from College Basketball or going straight from HS?

how many 1st rounders who stayed in college 3-4 years flopped in the NBA? answer: a lot

way back when, most of the high school guys who weren't drafted in the 1st couldn't go to a real college anyway, so they just threw their name in hoping a team would use a 2nd on them to make a rorster

even "busts" like stephen jackson, tyson chandler, desagna diop, eddie curry, etc stayed around for a while and made some money

Ndudi Ebi was a rare completely bust from high school. college wouldn't have solved his issues, though
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

If you're talking about shortening the shot clock, I agree.

Other than that, what could you possibly be talking about?



The three point line needs to be extended out. The "closely guarded" rule, widening the lane to NBA size, 8 second backcourt violation. I'd also argue for the touching of the ball on/above the cylinder, but that's a FIBA rule that I hope the NBA adopts soon(which I think they will).

Regardless of my last suggestion, these rules would bog the college game down less, and adapting to these rules would make college players better prepared for the pros.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424836 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Other than that, what could you possibly be talking about?

call more fouls and stop the mugging

8 second half court clock (like the NBA)

fewer timeouts

adopt the NBA's zone D rules and eliminate the true zone
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:22 pm to
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Ndudi Ebi was a rare completely bust from high school. college wouldn't have solved his issues, though


Calling him rare is ridiculous.There are plenty of busts from the prep era. Also the sample size of the prep era is much tinier than 3/4 year college guys being busts, so the ETA: point is invalid.
This post was edited on 7/7/13 at 4:24 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424836 posts
Posted on 7/7/13 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

There are plenty of busts from the prep era.

how many didn't get a 2nd contract? that's a true bust, to me

and i mean legit guys...not the guys who couldn't qualify for college and had no other option

quote:

Also the sample size of the prep era is much tinier than 3/4 year college guys being busts, so the argument is invalid.

i'm talking about 1st rounders, not just random 3-4 year players
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