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Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:39 pm to jimbeam
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So if you were young, bought a house, had little saved, you would likely have negative net worth?
From a mathematical standpoint, it's absolutely possible and quite common.
For example.. A hypothetical recent college grad starting his/her life..
Assets..
Home valued at $200K
Savings $5K
Car $15K
Total Assets $220K
Liabilities...
Mortgage Remaining $190K
Credit Card Debt $5K
Car Payment Remaining $7500
Student Loan Debt $25K
Total Liabilities $227.5K
Net Worth $220K - $227.5K = -$7,500
Things get even more complicated when things suddently depreciate like housing circa 2006-2012 and cars in general continually depreciate in value.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:42 pm to 1860pissed
Re: Milestones...
"If you are not good looking by 20, strong by 30, rich by 40 or wise by 50...
you will never be good looking, strong, rich or wise."
"If you are not good looking by 20, strong by 30, rich by 40 or wise by 50...
you will never be good looking, strong, rich or wise."
Posted on 6/17/13 at 2:44 pm to Zach
spot on
luckily i'm good lookin
luckily i'm good lookin
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:06 pm to eng08
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I'm going to shoot for the $500k
500k at 30 seems crazy.
I graduated with no student loans and making 65k+ and am struggling to see how I could get to 500k by 30.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:20 pm to hiltacular
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struggling to see how I could get to 500k by 30
Gotta take more risk.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:25 pm to TyOconner
Some risk, some good luck. Have had very good luck with real estate.
My goal is to be able to retire when my kids graduate college (55 ideally) and live off of rental income until I hit full retirement age.
My goal is to be able to retire when my kids graduate college (55 ideally) and live off of rental income until I hit full retirement age.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:26 pm to TyOconner
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Gotta take more risk.
Definitely. I'm not saying it isn't possible just that you are going to have to make some serious gains on investments to get there. That or get a house for free.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:31 pm to TyOconner
shite. i'd sure like to have that much by 30
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:37 pm to jimbeam
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So if you were young, bought a house, had little saved, you would likely have negative net worth?
Depends on what kind of loan/% you put down. I have a home worth $112,000 (hopefully can sell for more) and I owe $101,000.
With my wife's student loans, we have a net worth of around -$39,000. Without that, we'd be +$60,000 or so. Is it still considered a net worth if it's in the negative?
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:53 pm to jimbeam
Yeah me too. You wont get there on the stock market or your retirement accounts though. You have to own businesses or real estate and work your arse off. Thats the only way to sky rocket.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 3:58 pm to TyOconner
Yea besides this year, the way the market's been, I'm not knocking out the idea of just investing in myself and starting a business one day.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:03 pm to jimbeam
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starting a business one day.
You can get a mil or two investing your whole life and that is great, but if you never branch out and own then you wont ever get freaky rich.
ETA and 500k by 30 is what I would call well on your way to "freaky rich"
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:14 pm to hiltacular
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struggling to see how I could get to 500k by 30.
Probably because its unrealistic.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:57 pm to Paul Allen
I guess i could calculate Milestones if i wanted but my only goal is to grow my networth. Long term goal is to maintain a CAGR of 14%. Short term is north of 20% since i still consider my networth "small", therefore big gains are a little easier.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:17 pm to Paul Allen
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Probably because its unrealistic.
Exactly. It can happen and it does happen. Takes success in some high risk ventures. Less than 1% of people probably hit that milestone on their own.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 6:07 pm to 1860pissed
Looking back on things and laughing about it, I guess there were a few other odds and ends that I would consider "milestones"...
- When I no longer felt the need to pad my net worth calculation with assets like my desktop computer, bachelor pad furniture, or old trading cards at estimated Beckett value
- When my car was no longer my most valuable asset
- When I no longer had to pay PMI on my house note
- When the value of my 401k hit five-figures, and eventually six-figures
- When I no longer felt the need to pad my net worth calculation with assets like my desktop computer, bachelor pad furniture, or old trading cards at estimated Beckett value
- When my car was no longer my most valuable asset
- When I no longer had to pay PMI on my house note
- When the value of my 401k hit five-figures, and eventually six-figures
Posted on 6/17/13 at 7:51 pm to 1860pissed
I personally set a goal for passive retirement at age 50.. Meaning no more day to day work and relying more on business and real estate investments. To achieve the goal I set one million in retirement dollars, not real estate befor 40, as a benchmark.. I don't believe I'll make that partly because we wanted to have our house nearly or completely paid off.. I'm on pace to sock away between 60-90k this year depending on profits.. If I can keep that pace up with inflation I may get there by 50.
I'm a conservative worrier by nature and have had this ideal that with my house paid off, I could work at Walmart and still live in my home..
I'm a conservative worrier by nature and have had this ideal that with my house paid off, I could work at Walmart and still live in my home..
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:46 pm to Paul Allen
302,000 house owe 129,000
52,000 savings
25k brokerage account
30k my 401k
30k wife 401k
No car note
No family help
No other debt
2 kids
It's possible if you save and don't spend what you don't have
29 yrs old
Wife 28
52,000 savings
25k brokerage account
30k my 401k
30k wife 401k
No car note
No family help
No other debt
2 kids
It's possible if you save and don't spend what you don't have
29 yrs old
Wife 28
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