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re: How do LSU fans view Matt Mauck?
Posted on 5/5/13 at 2:37 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 5/5/13 at 2:37 am to TigerBait1127
I never understood why its Flynn > Mauck to most LSU fans. Just dont get it.
Obviously Flynn is a much better pro....but in college...MM was better imo.
Obviously Flynn is a much better pro....but in college...MM was better imo.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 2:51 am to Henry Jones Jr
He was a very good game manager, but was not a great QB. I will always love him for the 01 SECCG, and helping us win our first NT in 45 years. I wonder what his record would of been if he didn't get injured in 02, and didn't leave early. I wasn't completely shocked he left early since he had already been accepted to dental school and was prolly hoping to make a few bucks in the NFL to support him through it.
Most of the LSU fans though didn't even list Flynn and he won the NT and was a better QB.
ETA: I will give my top 5 of who I have seen play.
Russell
Davey
Flynn
Mauck
Herb Tyler
4 and 5 were tough, but Mauck won 2 SECCG games, and a BCSCG
Most of the LSU fans though didn't even list Flynn and he won the NT and was a better QB.
ETA: I will give my top 5 of who I have seen play.
Russell
Davey
Flynn
Mauck
Herb Tyler
4 and 5 were tough, but Mauck won 2 SECCG games, and a BCSCG
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 2:59 am
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:27 am to Henry Jones Jr
Same as anyone else would - with my eyeballz.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 5:39 am to la_birdman
Other way around. JaMarcus and Bowe had to bail Randall out. JaMarcus didn't start until on the road at Florida.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 6:08 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
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JaMarcus didn't start until on the road at Florida.
And quickly put lsu into a 14-0 hole. Marcus Randall and joe addai willed lsu to a win. One of my favorite games ever.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 6:50 am to TheDoc
He is tied with Jamarcus for the LSU record of most touchdown passes in a season (28). That has to count for something.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:34 am to NeverRains
quote:uhhhh no
Decent QB. He was like AJ.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:44 am to Henry Jones Jr
He set the criteria for future recruiting classes which the coaching staff has failed to follow, thus the reason for lack of national championships.
Criteria: recruit at least one white QB named Matt in every class
Criteria: recruit at least one white QB named Matt in every class
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:47 am to LC412000
Let's hope a white QB named Mett is close enough.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:17 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Had a thread about each schools top 5 qbs in the school's history on the rant and didn't see Matt Mauck listed in any LSU fan's list.
Well you just can't legitimately put him in the Top 5 considering that LSU had Y.A. Tittle (NFL HOFer), Bert Jones (NFL MVP in 1976), & Tommy Hodson (the only 4-time 1st-Team All-SEC QB in conference history).
For the years 1986-2011, I think almost all of the most knowledgeable fans would put Hodson / Flynn / Russell in the top tier, and put Davey / Mauck / Tyler in the second tier, and then put QBs like Booty / Lee / Howard in a tier below that.
But how you judge QBs within those tiers is like a total Rorschach test. There's just no good totally objective way to judge them.
Hodson was obviously the best in the SEC for 4 years, but the SEC was at its lowest point then (it was the era when independents reigned). He was the most polished freshman QB in LSU history, and may have been the best ever at reading defenses and playing smart, but he had limited pro potential and did have a couple of horrible games.
Russell obviously had the most talented arm, but he did a shite ton of little things wrong (from not following through on fakes, to getting blindsided on sacks and fumbling too easily, to being terrible at audibles), and had a penchant for not producing points in big games--LSU's offensive performances in its 8 games from 2004-2006 against UF, AUB, & UGA were absolutely and inexcusably subpar relative to the talent those teams had. But then how you view this depends on how you view Jimbo Fisher as an OC.
Matt Flynn produced points consistently against great defenses in big games like no other QB in LSU history, but people always want to write him off because he threw too many INTs in a 41-34 win over Bama, or because his arm wasn't as strong as Russell's, or because he's supposedly to blame for KY or AR. I think he was mostly just a scapegoat used by fans still mad over a lack of recognition for Russell in 2006, but whatever.
Davey is somebody that everybody looks back upon extremely fondly, because the games with him at QB was like watching LSU play a video game against the other teams' hapless defenses. Against the best defenses at the time, like UT & UF in '01, he didn't do much, but his bubble screen hookups to Josh Reed (such as in the '01 Bama game) were the stuff of legend. His style just worked so perfectly with Reed because he had an unusual ability to throw hard without moving his lower body at all, so that he would always throw with a defender draped around him and it would look hilarious. As fun as he was though, he was not seriously a "great" college QB. People confuse fun and laughter with greatness I think, and forget just how much separation Reed was able to achieve as a WR.
Herb Tyler ran the most beautifully crisp option offense at LSU in 1997, but holy crap, the dude had trouble as a dropback passer. I think he was just too short to see over the heads of linemen, because he was fairly good at rollouts, but his inability to throw from the pocket killed LSU at times, as awesome of an option QB as he was.
Which finally brings us to Matt Mauck, who I would say was sort of a hybrid type of QB who was half-Tyler, half-Flynn. Like Flynn, he could usually generate points either with his legs or his arm. Like Tyler, he was really not comfortable from the pocket and had trouble trying to get a vision for the field, although he had better vision than Tyler did, and (usually) tended to make fewer mistakes.
Also, what sets Mauck apart from the others is how much of a leader he was in the off-season. He had a lot of pull with the team as an older guy with good grades in pre-dental that was coming back from pro baseball, and he would call people up all the time during the summer to make sure they got their workouts done and practiced their routes with him. To this day I think he deserves a lot of credit for how in shape and well-regulated that 2003 team was. (Compared to say, the 2008 team, which was in horrible shape.) That offense still put up a goose egg against UF though.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 8:45 am
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:38 am to Henry Jones Jr
If I need a root canal then I view him favorably. Beyond that I don't think of him.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:55 am to peopleschamp
He wasnt some "game manager" though.. He was kind of careless/wreckless with the football. He threw like 12 INT's and 4 TD's against the better SEC competition that year.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:58 am to crazyLSUfan
Very good QB, sorry he left the team to study more to be a DR.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:59 am to Doc Fenton
his legacy would also be much different had he come back for the 2004 season.
Essentially, he missed more than 50% of the 2002 season due to injury and all of the 2004 season due to NFL/wanting to go to dental school.
oh yea and sandwiched in between that was a NC
Essentially, he missed more than 50% of the 2002 season due to injury and all of the 2004 season due to NFL/wanting to go to dental school.
oh yea and sandwiched in between that was a NC
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:05 am to Pilot Tiger
He was getting old, bruh.
Both him and Chad Lavalais were turning into Woody Wooderson.
Both him and Chad Lavalais were turning into Woody Wooderson.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:07 am to Henry Jones Jr
He was good. Had a great team around him. Only played for a little more than a year. I'd put him in my top 10 an maybe even close to 5.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:18 am to Henry Jones Jr
We likey vedy vedy much......
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:26 am to Henry Jones Jr
Solid. Good runner. Was older and more mature. Got his degree. Couldnt ask for more.
Dont know why saban isnt blasted. If we had a competent qb behind him, 02 would have turned out much diff.
Dont know why saban isnt blasted. If we had a competent qb behind him, 02 would have turned out much diff.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:28 am
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:40 am to Henry Jones Jr
Solid if not spectacular. Could run and throw...was not exeptional at either, but good at both so the combination served him well.
His legs won us the SEC title game in 2001. He wasn't quite their yet in the passing game so we basically ran read option every play. Not Chief's greatest moment.
His legs won us the SEC title game in 2001. He wasn't quite their yet in the passing game so we basically ran read option every play. Not Chief's greatest moment.
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:45 am to Cadello
Doc Fenton said well. But Mauck was also perhaps the finest leader as far as a captain we have ever had. He is by all accounts a great person and leader and is why we have the 18 tradition. He did something most qb's including Archie, Jamarcus, herb tylor, Eli, never did. Sec championship
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