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re: GoT: Who Holds the Iron Throne at the End of the Series? (NO Spoilers)

Posted on 4/11/13 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 7:41 pm to
Agreed on all points.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:36 pm to
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this thread is just ripe for trolling by book readers, not with spoilers per se, but just fricking with people


IT'S SO HARD NOT TO SPOIL
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 8:43 pm to
Small Paul
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

IT'S SO HARD NOT TO SPOIL
It's hard not to troll other people's topics? Nice.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:15 pm to
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I wondered what JT Bowtie had been up to.
Posted by swagsurfin7
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 7:18 am to
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Won't matter what anyone else thinks if she arrives in Westeros with 3 grown dragons.



This
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:25 am to
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Considering the ambiguity and secrecy of his heritage, it's possible. Imagine how Catelyn would feel treating him like a dick all those years. Especially if it was Robert's kid from Lyanna Stark.

But why would he send Jon to take the black? And once he found out the Jamie/Cercei thing, not hint that Jon would be the rightful heir - above Stannis or Renly?


What if you have the right mother, but the wrong father? Would your questions still stand? So no one bitches, I have no idea who his parents are.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:31 am to
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But why would he send Jon to take the black?

For his safety, away from the politics of Westeros
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:33 am to
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For his safety, away from the politics of Westeros


Winterfell is pretty far away from the politics of King Landing.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:44 am to
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Winterfell is pretty far away from the politics of King Landing.

Well John wanted to go, he wasn't going to be anything as the bastard of Winterfell.

And in retrospect, Winterfell wasn't far enough away from the politics of war.

Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:44 am to
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Winterfell is pretty far away from the politics of King Landing.


Didn't help Bran. Taking the black worked for Aemon Targaryen.
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:46 am to
Snow and Dany rule jointly (song of ice and fire)
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:50 am to
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Snow and Dany rule jointly (song of ice and fire)


Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.............

They'd make some great kids together, for damned sure.
Posted by Bayou Sam
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:52 am to
Yeah plus the show has made me doubt pretty hard whether jon is really a half-stark
Posted by F machine
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:54 am to
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Winterfell is pretty far away from the politics of King Landing.



Didn't help Bran


I'm not sure how much he got caught in the politics of King's Landing. I would say he happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and saw something he wasn't supposed to see. Not necessarily political, but maybe you could say it's political since he could have brought the whole kingdom down if he reported what he saw
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:55 am to
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And in retrospect, Winterfell wasn't far enough away from the politics of war.


In retrospect, the Night's Watch hasn't been all that safe for Benjen and Jon either.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:55 am to
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Yeah plus the show has made me doubt pretty hard whether jon is really a half-stark

The red eyed dire wolf following him around wasn't enough eh?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:56 am to
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Yeah plus the show has made me doubt pretty hard whether jon is really a half-stark


Another bastard of Robert's? Wouldn't be the first to have been secreted away.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:57 am to
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The red eyed dire wolf following him around wasn't enough eh?


Reverse coloring of the Stark's banner
Posted by 40 Rouge
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:58 am to
As a series newbie (just finished getting caught up on all episodes last week), and a complete NON reader, I have these thoughts:

- I feel that the throne is Dany's to have and that all of the action in the realm is just musical chairs until Dany and her dragons come to town. The wars via Robb and Stannis feel like fluff to me, and I just don't know where Bran's arc will go.

- I just don't see how the Lannister's stay in power with Joffrey as king. His ruling with fear will be the Lannister's undoing. Either by war, or assassination, or by some scheme from the Tyrell's.

- I watched the "honeypot" video. God damn. I never felt right about that girl, but the video blew my mind. (Although it felt like watching those conspiracy videos after Sandy Hook)

- Another thought I have is the importance of the army beyond the wall. I think Mance Rayder will take that army south to King's Landing and take over. Robb and Stannis will lead their wars in the meantime, but Mance will come in and prevail and name Jon Snow Hand of the King. But then here comes Dany with her now grown arse dragons and rains fire from above. So figuratively, the ice gets overthrown by fire.

-Ultimately, I don't think there's a happy ending. All the Lords will be defeated or are dead, and the realm is left in ruins and divided, decimated by years of war. The realm was in a period of rennaisance, and the game of thrones put it into a dark age. In my mind, I envision a final scene with Dany sitting on the Iron Throne with her dragons around her, then the camera pans out and away from the city only to reveal dead armies and Kings Landing looking like Harrenhal.

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