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re: Draft analysis - Trading back?
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:35 am to cashflippa
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:35 am to cashflippa
I have several issues with this article(like ILB being one of the bigger needs and Bushrod being a great mid round pick when he only ever played like a mid round pick) but I took the biggest issue with this:
"so drafting a proven OLB would be a priority"
NONE of these guys are proven. That's why you get so many busts every year, even the "can't miss" guys(like the recently relased McClain).
Edit:
This line in particular is full of fail:
"It is unlikely that Brodrick Bunkley will see a full-time starting role at NT if the Saints can improve by finding a player in the draft. Bunkley did perform well in the 3-4 at NT during his time in Denver as a great run stopper. The restructuring of his contract suggests he will stick around for a bit longer, but it is clear that he is not the answer, certainly not for every play at the very least."
Bunkley will be the starter(and play most of the snaps) unless Hicks plays as well as we think he can, but then he might replace Smith instead(he is slotted as Smith's backup). A draft pick won't replace him.
Broncos didn't run the 3-4 with him.
And Spags didn't even give this guy a chance(just like he held back Hicks, Wilson, and Galette) so we do not know that he is not the answer.
Edit2:
He completely forgot about Hawthorne. Holder just said the team doesn't feel like there's an opening at safety.
And to go back to oline talent, we found Evans and Nicks in the later rounds and that's it. Nicks was only there because of off the field issues but had first round talent. Bushrod was not great and Tennant and soon to be Brown are busts.
To keep saying that we can magically shite out an awesome mid to late round olineman because we ONCE drafted someone nobody knew about is absurd. If they knew Evans would be that good they would not have taken him that late.
"so drafting a proven OLB would be a priority"
NONE of these guys are proven. That's why you get so many busts every year, even the "can't miss" guys(like the recently relased McClain).
Edit:
This line in particular is full of fail:
"It is unlikely that Brodrick Bunkley will see a full-time starting role at NT if the Saints can improve by finding a player in the draft. Bunkley did perform well in the 3-4 at NT during his time in Denver as a great run stopper. The restructuring of his contract suggests he will stick around for a bit longer, but it is clear that he is not the answer, certainly not for every play at the very least."
Bunkley will be the starter(and play most of the snaps) unless Hicks plays as well as we think he can, but then he might replace Smith instead(he is slotted as Smith's backup). A draft pick won't replace him.
Broncos didn't run the 3-4 with him.
And Spags didn't even give this guy a chance(just like he held back Hicks, Wilson, and Galette) so we do not know that he is not the answer.
Edit2:
He completely forgot about Hawthorne. Holder just said the team doesn't feel like there's an opening at safety.
And to go back to oline talent, we found Evans and Nicks in the later rounds and that's it. Nicks was only there because of off the field issues but had first round talent. Bushrod was not great and Tennant and soon to be Brown are busts.
To keep saying that we can magically shite out an awesome mid to late round olineman because we ONCE drafted someone nobody knew about is absurd. If they knew Evans would be that good they would not have taken him that late.
This post was edited on 4/6/13 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:48 am to bonethug0108
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I have several issues with this article(like ILB being one of the bigger needs
I know we are set with the starters (Lofton, Hawthorne). But Vilma has had some real problems with his knees over the years. If something were to happen to Vilma, you would have Ramon Humber or Will Herring to replace him.
and what exactly do we have in David Hawthorne? He only started 10 games last year because of injury. And when he did play he was playing a position he wasn't used to. They had him at SAM when I think he was more of a WLB in Seattle(that may or may not be accurate though).
I mean I see why he would have questions for that position. And really, I think he was saying we should only address it if we were to trade down to #23. I like Ogletree but taking him at #15 would be a reach it seems like...
Posted on 4/6/13 at 11:59 am to bonethug0108
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NONE of these guys are proven. That's why you get so many busts every year, even the "can't miss" guys(like the recently relased McClain
I agree with this and was thinking the same thing.. Maybe it was referring more to a full time role at the position. Either way I just want a stud first round pick this year
But
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Broncos didn't run the 3-4 with him.
They did though and he played pretty well in it. They switched to a 4-3 later in the season, and he kinda fell off. Hopefully he's is an every down starter though. You're right about Spag's not giving people a chance though. Hicks tore it up in the Denver game coincidentally and still barely got his chances.
quote:
To keep saying that we can magically shite out an awesome mid to late round olineman because we ONCE drafted someone nobody knew about is absurd. If they knew Evans would be that good they would not have taken him that late.
That happens with every draft, you can't take a players current performance and say that he would have been drafted higher if they knew. Graham-3rd, Colston-7th, Pierre UDFA... Hell Arian Foster was undrafted. Gotta give a little credit to the front office for their hits as much as we bash their misses.
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