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re: Why does "How I met.." get love, but "The Big Bang..." gets hate?

Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:00 am to
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:00 am to
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I like Friends. I think it was a better show than Seinfeld.


I would say that the rest of you post is completely worthless now for lack of cred, but I want to address this:

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also, why do people hate women so much?


That's a FAR leap you are taking. I'm male. I don't like too much shite directed towards a female audience, but I used to like Friends because it was new. HIMYM isn't new. If BBT is 2.5 Men then HIMYM is a warmed-over Friends except the womanizer is smart instead of an idiot.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:11 am to
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That's a FAR leap you are taking. I'm male. I don't like too much shite directed towards a female audience, but I used to like Friends because it was new. HIMYM isn't new. If BBT is 2.5 Men then HIMYM is a warmed-over Friends except the womanizer is smart instead of an idiot.


This is my take as well.

BBT can be a one-trick pony, sure, but at least we haven't really seen the premise before. It's something new and there will be copycats going forward.

HIYMT is fine show, and so was Friends, but they are very, very similar.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 10:23 am to
Yeah, what a huge leap to call signing off on this statement as misogynist:

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HIMYM is more of a chick show that boyfriends and husbands get roped into, then natural affinity develops on the boyfriend/husband side once they get invested in the characters.


First, it argues that it's a "chick show", as if that's inherently bad. Then, there's a statement that only men in relationships get "roped into" watching it. And this was as a critique of why the show isn't that good. Essentially, the "boom" argument is that the show appeals to women. Oh, and that it's like Friends, a wildly popular show that also appealed to women.

How is that NOT a misogynist argument?

And yes, I think Friends was a better show than Seinfeld, mainly because I think Seinfeld is an aggressively mean-spirited show. All of the main characters are horrible people who repeatedly do awful things to each other and their acquaintances. Sure, a show like Always Sunny is the same way, but the central joke is how terrible they are, and they are routinely punished for being awful people. Seinfeld glorifies their narcissism and misanthropy.

As a viewer, I found it exhausting. It's still a a good, funny show, but I actually don't enjoy it on rewatch and I was never invested in the characters. It's a show that was terrified of genuine human emotion. As I've grown older, I've drifted away from things that are mean for the sake of being mean. But I digress. To tie this back into our current discussion, I feel that BBT is also an aggressively mean-spirited show while HIMYM is not. HIMYM shares the hopeful nature of Friends while BBT shares the misanthropy of Seinfeld.

And I far prefer the show with actual characters rounding out into fully formed people.
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