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Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:10 pm to denvertiger
It was nice to see Dale getting the love from the fans yesterday during the halftime presentation of the '78 team.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:18 pm to 3xlsugrad
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mediocre college basketball coach
There's a dickhead born everyday GFY
mediocre college basketball coach
There's a dickhead born everyday GFY
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:22 pm to Day Wisher
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That's not mediocre. I'm not calling him an elite NCAA coach, but he was nowhere near mediocre by any standard.
Extrapolate John Brady's career at LSU over the years of Daddy Dale and you'd get the exact same results. Would you consider Brady a good coach?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:27 pm to c on z
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until those last couple of years before he retired).
More like last 4 years
He basically left the program in the same shape he inherited it.
You know, sometimes people use the term "couple" to mean more than two. You know, like "Give me a couple of minutes"..."Give me a couple of M&Ms..." and so on.
LSU won 288 games and had been to only 2 NCAA Tournaments in the 25 years before Dale came. He won 448 games and appeared in 13 NCAA Tournaments.
Let's just say he left the program with a hell of a lot more wins than he took it over with. That long stretch in between mattered. Yes, the last years sucked (Livingston blowing out his knee hurt and the Earl saga really hurt), but at least he took LSU to the NCAA tourney in one of his last five years coaching at LSU. When he took over, LSU hadn't gone in 18 years.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:27 pm to LSUzealot
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Extrapolate John Brady's career at LSU over the years of Daddy Dale and you'd get the exact same results. Would you consider Brady a good coach?
ahhhh No. And I'm not even a Brady hater.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:29 pm to LSUzealot
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Extrapolate John Brady's career at LSU over the years of Daddy Dale and you'd get the exact same results
Get out of here. Brady's success came from having his backyard loaded with talent for a couple of years. He didn't have to recruit players like Dale did. Never in a million years could Brady have made the tourney 11 years in a row.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 1:37 pm to LSUzealot
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Extrapolate John Brady's career at LSU over the years of Daddy Dale and you'd get the exact same results. Would you consider Brady a good coach?
Brady wasn't really a terrible coach. I really wanted him to go when his time came to an end, but his biggest issue seemed to be that he couldn't keep players on the team because of hit attitude. He was always complaining or getting into it with players.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:36 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Daddy Dale caused his own problems with the NCAA. He beat his chest & called them Gestapo Nazis,yet he was cheating as much as the next NCAA coach out there. His holier than thou attitude, going on for yrs, pissed off the NCAA & they finally got him. He got what he asked for, but it was LSU who suffered. Record wise, I agree, he's the best roundball coach in the history of the program. Yet, with Shaq's team, the NCAA player of the 2 back to back, with above average team talent, never won the SEC. At a time when Kent. was down. Will Perdue............Will Perdue...won the league. As much as I detest B.Knight, he was heads on with his comment bout being worried till he looked down & saw DD at the end of the other bench.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:38 pm to nicholastiger
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And the NCAA still went after him like a witch hunt. Dale did more for the well being of athletes than any hoops coach that is coaching today.
Fact!
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:46 pm to Keltic Tiger
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He beat his chest & called them Gestapo Nazis,yet he was cheating as much as the next NCAA coach out there.
The NCAA spent nearly 4 years on campus and found nothing. That was in the 80's.
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As much as I detest B.Knight, he was heads on with his comment bout being worried till he looked down & saw DD at the end of the other bench
Do you know when Knight made this statement?
Do you know why Knight made this statement?
If you answer these questions correctly, you probably will not use this as an argument in the future.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:54 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Dale Brown vs John:
Dale wins 448
John wins 192
Winning precent
Dale 59.6
John 56.6
The main difference between the two coaches time at LSU is Dale had to play Kentucky twice a year until his last few seasons. Dale also faced them 4 times 1 season and many times 3 a season.
John faced them once a year for most of his time at LSU.
Dale wins 448
John wins 192
Winning precent
Dale 59.6
John 56.6
The main difference between the two coaches time at LSU is Dale had to play Kentucky twice a year until his last few seasons. Dale also faced them 4 times 1 season and many times 3 a season.
John faced them once a year for most of his time at LSU.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:57 pm to tigger1
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The main difference between the two coaches time at LSU is Dale had to play Kentucky twice a year until his last few seasons. Dale also faced them 4 times 1 season and many times 3 a season.
John faced them once a year for most of his time at LSU.
Dale generally played much tougher out of conference games. In addition, the SEC was a better league in Dale's years.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 2:59 pm to LSU92
I know the answer to both, but do you know the NCAA was in the hip pocket of the ACC and Big 10 basketball at that time?
In the 1981 final four Ethan Martin was a 1/2 a step faster than Thomas, but was called for 2 blocking fouls when it was clearly Thomas who ran into him (I was there in person for that one).
In 87 the game is given to Knight by the refs, any coach in America that did what Knight did that day would have gotten a Tech.
In the 1981 final four Ethan Martin was a 1/2 a step faster than Thomas, but was called for 2 blocking fouls when it was clearly Thomas who ran into him (I was there in person for that one).
In 87 the game is given to Knight by the refs, any coach in America that did what Knight did that day would have gotten a Tech.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:06 pm to tigger1
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I know the answer to both, but do you know the NCAA was in the hip pocket of the ACC and Big 10 basketball at that time?
They always have been. There is/was a different standard for the establishment coaches. Dale never fit their mold.
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In 87 the game is given to Knight by the refs, any coach in America that did what Knight did that day would have gotten a Tech.
When Knight punched the phone, he should have been given his 2nd tech. In other words, he should have been ejected with about 10 minutes left in the 1st half. That game was one of the greatest screw jobs in LSU sports history.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:13 pm to Keltic Tiger
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As much as I detest B.Knight, he was heads on with his comment bout being worried till he looked down & saw DD at the end of the other bench.
I hate when assholes make this comment. He was not "heads on" he was lucky as hell and should have been remembered as the coach that got tossed in a regional final. He was a 1 seed against LSU who was a 10 seed. He was getting beat and he knew it, lost his cool and received a technical. Right after, he slammed his fist (some say phone) on the scorers table. Should have gotten a 2nd technical and got tossed, instead stayed in the game and managed to get his team a 1 point win.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:19 pm to Keltic Tiger
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Yet, with Shaq's team, the NCAA player of the 2 back to back, with above average team talent, never won the SEC.
What are you talking about? LSU won the sec shaq's sophomore sesason and would have won it his junior season had it not been for a horrible call at the end of the the last game at arkansas.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:30 pm to 3xlsugrad
If Coach Brown had such great talent, how come only Shaq was an NBA Star?
Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:31 pm to ptra
Knight banged the table, knocking a phone off the hook.
Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:49 pm to denvertiger
Yes, I know when Knight made that comment. Yes, to the other as well. The point I was trying to make is not related to when Knight said it, but the message he was relaying. DD was never known as an X & O coach, and at the end of close games, that is when that type of coaching is the most important. And, yes, DD was always there for his players, even yrs later. The Cookie Man in particular benefitted for yrs & yrs from DD's caring for him as a person. That said, I prefer a basketball coach, not Mother Thersa.
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